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the guy bought back gog and is pushing linux? Consider me even more a gog fan
Genuinely, if GOG finally manages to support Linux, I will definitely return to it and start purchasing games there.
This! They say Steam isn’t technically any better, but it has so much secret sauce comparing to something like Galaxy, such as Linux port, proton, workshop, steam input among other things
Just a tip, if you guys want to containerize games such Epic Games, GoG, or other Windows apps, there is a program called Bottle which lets you do this. Can be a great added layer of security and containerization: https://usebottles.com/
However there is Lutris and Heroic for easier to use alternatives that do not offer containerized security.
Is Bottles actually containerized in any meaningful way? Last I checked it just managed wineprefixes, and Wine is not a sandbox.
I could be wrong but i don’t think the wine instances themselves are containerized. Maybe he’s confusing it with flatpak sandboxing, since that is the only officially supported way of using it.
I don’t know much about it. I tried using it to set it up with Epic Games. There was a lot more manual work than say Heroic or Lutris, but all was able to be done through a UI.
I needed to select my dependencies of C# versions, C++ versions, XInput software, Direct X version, various other stuff. This was done within a single bottle, so I’m guessing they’re separate from the others.
To be honest, I managed to get Epic Games running, but had trouble signing it. Not sure what else I was missing.
It also lets you take snapshots of your Bottles state. And provides you with a Task Manager, command line, Registry Editor, Windows compatibility versions (e.g., 10 or 11), toggle OBS screen capture, gamescope, Wayland (experimental), other graphic stuff,
Its got Launchers for many things, like also: Battle. Net, Enlisted, EVE, FL Studio, AutoDesk, Guild Wars 2, MEGA sync, Origin, PlayStation Plus, QOBUZ, Star Citizen, Ubisoft Connect, Wargaming. NET (World of Tanks, Warplanes, Battleships), the GOG Galaxy official launcher.
They show the ratings for the various launchers from within the app, to show its score for compatibility.
Why the downvotes? This is useful information…
I think because people no longer trust you because you confidently said that something does something, and then when questioned, you said that you don’t really know much about it.
It gives your comments a low trustability factor. People will think that anything else you have to say on the matter could be misleading.
Yes, it has different wine instances for each installed application, it uses a flatpak style separation to prevent them from accessing each other.
The reason I’m asking is that separate wineprefixes will look like a “different wine instance” to a layman, but they’re not the same thing as a sandbox. Wine mounts the host filesystem under the Z: drive, and even beyond that there are probably ways to escape the Wine environment. For true sandboxing some additional layers will be required.
From a security standpoint, yes they can be broken out of, just like a docker or a virtual machine , but they use bubblewrap to isolate environments just like flatpaks. Malicious content aside they are just as isolated and sandboxed as a docker image or vm
Wait one of the cofounders of CD Projekt just out and bought GOG from CD Projekt? Wild
I’ll believe it when I see a Linux version of their Galaxy client.
They should financially support Heroic Launcher and add it to their website. Why invent something that already exists and is open source?
If you open the GOG website inside Heroic, it acts as an affiliate link and the HGL team gets a revenue split. An official partnership would still be better, but it’s something.
(edit) Further details here: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/support_heroic_launcher/page1
And Heroic’s GOG affiliate link: https://heroicgameslauncher.com/donate (it uses Adtraction and might trigger some ad blockers)
Wasn’t aware of that. Thank you for the info.
Did not know that ! Will make sure to do that next time I buy something from gog !
He did just reacquire ownership of GOG. Porting software can take time, but this actually might happen in the near future, at least a beta version.
I’ve used gog launcher before, years and years ago (13? 14 years?) so maybe it’s better now, but it was bad. Really bad, I had to get rid of it and just use the offline installers.
Heroic on the other hand is very good.
I’m genuinely curious, I’ve never really used any launcher other than steam (it’s not blind loyalty, my steam lib is just bigger than I’m ever likely to play already and my gaming heyday came before launchers).
Steam on the surface of it doesn’t seem like an inordinately complex piece of software compared to say, a game or package manager etc. What is it that makes other launchers so shit?
I didn’t dislike it, but I don’t remember anything about it that would make me want to use it instead of Lutris.
You don’t need Galaxy. Use Heroic or better yet, don’t use any launchers. GOG games are DRM-free.
Having a client that’s actually integrated with your account, with the ability browse, purchase, and download games, is going to be a requirement to complete with Steam
I have a GOG library specifically because it’s not tied to a stupid Valve Epic Games Uplay Launcher. This is their competitive edge. Plus, all of what you mentioned can be done with GOG through any semi-modern web browser.
I suppose but the only reason I use gog is to download games without having to use a goddam launcher
I’m sure many people want a launcher and as long as I can keep not using it I won’t care
But not using a launcher is the reason I have a gog library
TBH the only reason I even want a launcher is that game achievements require it. AFAIK this is possible with other launchers like Heroic, but I never bothered setting it up for the GOG games I do own.
Ah well imo achievements have been a monumentally bad thing for gaming and culture so I have to say I hope they disappear anyway
I like achievements. Outside the feeling of completion, they allow me:
- to try some challenges I would never have the idea to try (e.g. the great Trine 2 achievements)
- to decide when I am done with a game and can start up another.
- to feel a bit proud when you achieve something only 5% or other players did.
Thankfully achievements can typically be ignored, at least in single-player games that I play. So not sure what’s so radically bad about them.
But, the funniest achievements system that I’ve seen was in the original ‘Assetto Corsa’, the racing simulator. It goes like ‘win with this car on this track against these other cars’, and then seven hundred of these, vaguely mirroring the pseudo-career mode that the game has. I had a chuckle seeing that, and paid no attention to the achievements again. The cherry on top is that basically no one plays the original ‘career’, driving mod cars on mod tracks instead.
Can’t say that you’re wrong …
Nah, wine prefixes are good
I guess since GOG doesn’t have an official launcher, we will be like, very totally unable to create and use wine prefixes. No siree.
but I want it
You’re right but the good point of the HL is the convenience and fast of use. On my Deck is the best way to have all my GOG and (freebie) Epic games with one click, dlc included.
Laughs in Heroic Launcher
Genuine question as a Linux user… Why would I want their client unless they are going to build proton/similar into it?
Even if Galaxy is running under Wine:
- It’s a package manager. It handles downloading files and updates, installation and patching, and verification.
- It integrates various GOG services, like cloud storage for save files.
- It can set environment variables and pass arguments to launched games.
Besides, a Linux-native port doesn’t need to package anything. It can simply mark Wine/Proton and various compatibility solutions as dependencies. Lutris, for example, is still a great utility even if it doesn’t use the packaged Wine versions: all it really needs to do is execute some program in the correct runtime environment with the correct arguments.
I’d assume that would be part of it, yeah. But that may indeed be a faulty assumption. Anyway, achievements don’t work without a client even if they’re native Linux titles.
You can already play the games via heroic launcher, but I am very hyped for official support. Go GOG
They should just become a contributor to Heroic.
That would be a lot better than them making a proprietary launcher for linux.
My favorite part about the commend that Windows is poor quality software is the part where Satya Nadella bragged about how as much as 30% of windows is written by AI
I don’t even think that 30% figure is true. They’re just inflating it to butter up ai investors.
Microsoft leadership is dogshit but I doubt their devs are… THAT dogshit…
No, it could be true. AI—especially with .NET—tends to generate exceptionally verbose code. Especially if you use “AI best practices” such as telling the AI to ensure 100% code coverage. Then there’s the, “let’s not use any 3rd party libraries, because we are Microsoft” angle.
.NET is already one of the most absurdly verbose languages (only other widely-used language that’s worse is Java). Copilot could easily push it over the top 🤣
All it would take would be for Microsoft to have AI rewrite some of the core libraries.
The problem with Linux is that you can’t target… Linux. Because there’s no single Linux.
Didn’t distract Steam from succeeding here.
If only a huge PC gaming store had solved this problem years ago with a standard runtime environment for Linux games…
…alas it doesn’t exist, and if it did, Lemmy would keep complaining about it and instead drooling over another store that doesn’t even have an official Linux client.
it’s impossible for that to exist. First you have convince tle linux community toagree to one (1, uno, more than zero but less than two) runtime environment. And then to keep it backwards compatible. Because “you just need to recompile it” doesn’t work for this (or ever, really, if you want something to keep working)
it’s impossible for that to exist.
How curious! The fact that it exists seems to contradict your statement.
And then to keep it backwards compatible
This sentence makes no sense in the context of how it works.
Because “you just need to recompile it”
Not having to do that is the entire point.
steam exists
but that’s steam, not linux.
the topic was gaming stores, and how they can or cannot support linux
Heroic? I’m pretty happy with that
You don’t have to target every distribution, target a vaguely credible glibc, and of course the kernel, and you are covered.
As a distribution platform themself, they don’t have to sweat packaging N different ways, they package the way they want. Bundle all the libraries (which is not different then the way they do it in Windows, the bundle so many libraries).
They don’t get the advantage of the platform libraries and packaging, but that is how they treat Windows already because the library situation in Windows is actually really messy, despite being ostensibly a more monolithic ecosystem.
Better late than never!
Better Nate than lever.
I am definetely gonna reference thay IRL lmao.
You bastard, I almost forgot about that.
Wow. I was so engrossed by the narrative that after one hour of listening to it, I genuinely felt betrayed.
I’m guessing that in some region of the world, ‘lever’ and ‘never’ rhyme with one another?
American here, and they rhyme. LEE-ver and NEE-ver.
NEE-ver lmao
Actually saying it out loud it kinda sounds like a BFE, Minnesota accent. Or maybe more Canadian. However my idea of Minnesota accent is based on the mom from Bobby’s World and Uncle Joey’s beaver.
I’m realizing again a few minutes later that 00s+ kids may not get either of those references. And Dave Coullier is Canadian and I think his beaver is too.
Edit again, I realize that the 00s+ kids that don’t get the references would probably be more confused by me referencing two mens beavers.
Dave Coullier (sp?) was the actor who played the character Uncle Joey (Gladstone) in Full House, where he pretended to be the uncle to three little girls and lived in their house, with their dad Bob Sagat (of “the aristocrats” and “Rolling with Sagat”), after the mom died of mysterious circumstances. As the girls got older Uncle Joey started making videos where he stuck his hand into a beaver and used it as a puppet. Part of this gag usually revolved around various jokes about “wood”. Eventually this got him to become a bit of a local celebrity, in the morning news and as a radio host.
Partly related fact, Alanis Morissette’s album (and now Broadway Musical), Jagged Little Pill, was inspired by a bad breakup with Dave Coullier
US English dialects mainly, though there may be pockets in other Anglophone places.
In the US we pronounce ‘lever’ with a soft E (as in yellow) rather than a hard E sound (as in green) like you do in the UK.
Just another one of those weird US vs UK English things, but that pronunciation makes the joke work.
Ah, a shaggy dog story, those are the best.
Support the base versions and the rest will solve itself.
Yes! Finally!
Here’s hoping they put their money where their mouth is.
No offense to GoG, but right now they’re getting publicity with nice, cheap words…
Why does the Linux penguin have gynecomastia
Does tux have an official gender?
Bro’s gender is open source
Are you assuming Tux’s gender?
those are pectoral muscles, I think. I would expect pectoral muscles of flightless birds to be smaller, but not nonexistent
Would be nice if they also start to support development of Proton.
Post implies Kićinski was part of the problem, but didn’t he leave CD Projekt back in 2010?
