Oddly, you’d be correct 99% of the time but in Jon’s case he is actually highly experienced with dealings on Capitol Hill.
After leaving The Daily Show, Stewart maintained a low profile in entertainment industry circles, but used his celebrity and voice in a sustained advocacy for 9/11 first responders and war veterans’ health benefits. In 2019, he received the New York City Bronze Medallion for his “tireless advocacy, inspiration, and leadership (helping to) pass the permanent authorization of the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund Act”. He continued using his platform as an advocate for veterans by being instrumental in helping pass the Honoring our PACT Act of 2022, which expands healthcare access and funding to veterans exposed to toxic substances during their service including burn pits.
so that makes him a good activist… the leap from there to POTUS is like you seeing me volunteering at a soup kitchen and wanting to give me a Micheline star restaurant to run
His involvement was hands on and significant. In person lobbying, actual help crafting the legislation, etc.
Does that alone qualify him to be potus? Probably not, which is the point he is making in the video. Does it make him far more qualified than Trump? Absolutely. But the point of my comment was in response to yours…
What kind of preparation would Jon Stewart have to be a good President of the USA? other than being famous?
…and to illustrate that he does indeed have hands on knowledge and experience in the legislative negotiations and crafting, which most other celebrities do not have.
My original point is that the very American celebrity worship phenomenon, which has turned your entire government in a popularity contest, is BAD for you… so maybe don’t keep going down this route?
I swear some people find themselves in a hole and they just want to keep digging
Elections have always been popularity contests, what are you even talking about? It’s about finding a prominent figure that has a strong, and hopefully benign, vision for the country and to raise that person as a figurehead.
That they come from pop culture in the US now is just a reflection of the collapse of their civic space. You still need to find a viable path to victory, and wishing we were in a different era will only prevent adaptation to the new reality.
You’re awfully loud to be this wrong. Look at Ukraine, Slovenia, Pakistan, Uganda, Guatemala and more. All of these places have elected celebrities and or comedians to high political office. It is not strictly an American thing.
I don’t understand your replies. In the video Jon addresses the impulse people have to want folk like him, Colbert, and Kimmel to run for office. He insinuates his disagreement but understands the sentiment. In other words, exactly your point.
On the other hand, you keep arguing the point of Jon as POTUS in this comment thread when the only point being made was that, unlike most celebrities, Jon has knowledge and experience in the legislative process. You stated that he had no other qualification other than fame. I corrected that misconception. Nothing more.
I don’t understand your replies. In the video Jon addresses the impulse people have to want folk like him, Colbert, and Kimmel to run for office. He insinuates his disagreement but understands the sentiment. In other words, exactly your point.
yet ITT everybody is already voting for this imaginary ticket
On the other hand, you keep arguing the point of Jon as POTUS in this comment thread when the only point being made was that, unlike most celebrities, Jon has knowledge and experience in the legislative process. You stated that he had no other qualification other than fame. I corrected that misconception. Nothing more.
read the comments… the celebrity worship is out of control here
I get that, for the overall post. I was just noting that this specific comment thread was in response to your comment about his qualifications and experience. Nothing more. It later got filled with other trains of conversation, but my response to you was specific to that one subject, not whether or not celebrities in general should be public servants.
I mean, I get your point, but… are you really going to pretend Stewart wouldn’t be better than every fucking Republican?
and half the Democrats, too. Even if the off-chance they do know better than some random person who follows politics, our current ‘leaders’ are listening to lobbyists over even basic logic.
I mean, I get your point, but… are you really going to pretend Stewart wouldn’t be better than every fucking Republican?
no, of course not. But the piece of dog shit I just scraped off my shoe would be a million times better than all republicans blended together so that is not really a measure of goodness
Why are you dealing in absolutes? if I am not with you, even partially, I seem to be interpreted as being against you
All I am saying is that, if you take Jon Stewart celebrity status away, all you have is a man with no interesting education to speak of who does seem interested in the welfare of vets… that’s it. You can go to ANY VA facility and find people with more education and a life long career of helping Vets
Yet you want me to think you wanting Jon Stewart for POTUS has nothing to do with celebrity worship
Way to continually ignore his actual political accomplishments.
Nobody is calling him the next Bernie Sanders. Nobody is saying he’d be the perfect pick. Though only you seem to be hellbent on ignoring any positive qualities.
Oddly, you’d be correct 99% of the time but in Jon’s case he is actually highly experienced with dealings on Capitol Hill.
so that makes him a good activist… the leap from there to POTUS is like you seeing me volunteering at a soup kitchen and wanting to give me a Micheline star restaurant to run
Bernie Sanders was an activist.
and with his track record, he could have peen an awesome potus
His involvement was hands on and significant. In person lobbying, actual help crafting the legislation, etc.
Does that alone qualify him to be potus? Probably not, which is the point he is making in the video. Does it make him far more qualified than Trump? Absolutely. But the point of my comment was in response to yours…
…and to illustrate that he does indeed have hands on knowledge and experience in the legislative negotiations and crafting, which most other celebrities do not have.
yes but why choose a celebrity that knows politics when you could have someone with a full education and career (or at least you could wish for one)
Because it’s a popularity contest where name recognition is a huge factor. I swear it’s like some people want to lose.
My original point is that the very American celebrity worship phenomenon, which has turned your entire government in a popularity contest, is BAD for you… so maybe don’t keep going down this route?
I swear some people find themselves in a hole and they just want to keep digging
Elections have always been popularity contests, what are you even talking about? It’s about finding a prominent figure that has a strong, and hopefully benign, vision for the country and to raise that person as a figurehead.
That they come from pop culture in the US now is just a reflection of the collapse of their civic space. You still need to find a viable path to victory, and wishing we were in a different era will only prevent adaptation to the new reality.
not JUST popularity contests, that is just America bud
You’re awfully loud to be this wrong. Look at Ukraine, Slovenia, Pakistan, Uganda, Guatemala and more. All of these places have elected celebrities and or comedians to high political office. It is not strictly an American thing.
I don’t understand your replies. In the video Jon addresses the impulse people have to want folk like him, Colbert, and Kimmel to run for office. He insinuates his disagreement but understands the sentiment. In other words, exactly your point.
On the other hand, you keep arguing the point of Jon as POTUS in this comment thread when the only point being made was that, unlike most celebrities, Jon has knowledge and experience in the legislative process. You stated that he had no other qualification other than fame. I corrected that misconception. Nothing more.
yet ITT everybody is already voting for this imaginary ticket
read the comments… the celebrity worship is out of control here
I get that, for the overall post. I was just noting that this specific comment thread was in response to your comment about his qualifications and experience. Nothing more. It later got filled with other trains of conversation, but my response to you was specific to that one subject, not whether or not celebrities in general should be public servants.
We decided she loved the genosides and didn’t care about the poletarians.
I mean, I get your point, but… are you really going to pretend Stewart wouldn’t be better than every fucking Republican?
and half the Democrats, too. Even if the off-chance they do know better than some random person who follows politics, our current ‘leaders’ are listening to lobbyists over even basic logic.
Do not let perfect be the enemy of good.
no, of course not. But the piece of dog shit I just scraped off my shoe would be a million times better than all republicans blended together so that is not really a measure of goodness
It is a valid point of reference when saying someone is better than what we have…
Why are you hellbent on making perfect the enemy of better?
who says I am?
Why are you dealing in absolutes? if I am not with you, even partially, I seem to be interpreted as being against you
All I am saying is that, if you take Jon Stewart celebrity status away, all you have is a man with no interesting education to speak of who does seem interested in the welfare of vets… that’s it. You can go to ANY VA facility and find people with more education and a life long career of helping Vets
Yet you want me to think you wanting Jon Stewart for POTUS has nothing to do with celebrity worship
Way to continually ignore his actual political accomplishments.
Nobody is calling him the next Bernie Sanders. Nobody is saying he’d be the perfect pick. Though only you seem to be hellbent on ignoring any positive qualities.