[a character looks sad in front of a sad city, under the sunset]
Things aren’t looking great…
It sucks when the state kills people
Wish we could do something about it
[the character is now in front of their TV, showing ICE agents surrounding a bleeding corpse on the floor]
Wait… this time they killed WHITE people
This means it could happen to me too?!
[an angry crowd is demonstrating, holding various signs such as…]
THIS TIME YOU’VE GONE TOO FAR
I DRAW THE LINE HERE
TOLERATE NO MORE
2025-31-12, Keith Porter, shot and killed by ICE agents
2025-09-12, Silverio Villegas González, shot and killed by ICE agents
2025-07-28, Jaime Alanis Garcia, shot and killed by ICE agents
27 shootings by ICE in 2025,
8 of which were lethal
31 deaths in ICE custody in 2025
11 deaths in ICE custody in 2024
7 deaths in ICE custody in 2023
3 deaths in ICE custody in 2022
5 deaths in ICE custody in 2021
18 deaths in ICE custody in 2020
9 deaths in ICE custody in 2019
9 deaths in ICE custody in 2028
Indistinguishable from Russian propaganda to agitate for class division and disrupt solidarity. Fuck outta here with this self-righteous, tone-deaf slopaganda.
“Uh Oh people seem to be uniting in solidarity. Guess we better find a way to tear them apart!”
OP probably.
2025-31-12, Keith Porter, shot and killed by ICE agents
Are you alright?
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I get it, but if this is the line for somebody, then that person is finally angry at the right people for the right reasons. You can tell them off and bicker amongst yourselves after its over. Just be glad theyre finally on the right side for now.
The best ‘convert’ is the one that got there on their own. They’re already primed to believe us when we warn next time.
We do harm by mocking the leopards-ate-my-face crowd when they finally catch on. Even if it is cathartic.
There’s room to tell them “Oh that thing we warned you about actually happened? maybe we weren’t crazy”, but we should then welcome them in and guide them instead of a rude “I told ya so” and no empathy.
Exactly. As the ol’ saying goes: “the Right looks for converts, the Left looks for traitors.” We need to change that.
The reason the far right has grown so much is because of how they bring people into the fold. “oh, you were one of them libtards, but now you support our one true god Donald J Trump? Hell yeah brother, welcome to the side of the patriots!!11!1!” vs. “oh you voted for Trump, but now you hate ICE? We warned you this would happen, fuck you Trump voter!”
Some of it is a function of media. Media typically doesn’t cover when non-white people get murdered. Some of it is the media reflecting the racism of its viewers. Some of it is being caught on video and leaving less room for doubt (and the media deciding to show the videos). There’s also been protests and action being taken by normal citizens before these white people got killed (these white people were killed doing it, after all).
Lots of people, myself included, have been angry about this for awhile now. But also, deaths in 25 were more than twice as high than the next highest listed. And 27 shootings 3 fatalities just in this year, and January isn’t even over. Yeah, even more people are obviously going to be angry.
9 deaths in ICE custody in 2028
I woulda thought it’d just keep growing after 2026. 🤔
Nah the world ends in 2027 unfortunately
Phew, I’m not a trade unionist, I’m still safe
Underrated comment
This is wildly reductive.
So you respond by being reductive. Great job.
He’s basically saying “I don’t need your permission to make strawman arguments” almost as if he realizes he’s not arguing in good faith…
People just felt they had to prove it to others that ICE is literally anti-american, and is not after just immigrants or whatever. If the white guy had drawn the gun, they would be way less upset, because there would be plausible deniability. It is hard to paint a nurse as a drug junkie.
Good luck deflecting this without looking like a cultist.
How many of those were captured on video? From multiple angles?
We don’t have to pretend America doesn’t have a racism problem to know that rhetoric like this is not well intentioned.
Minneapolis: Check.
On video: Check.
Massive uproar: Check.
White victim: Nope.
George Floyd’s death shows that what matters is that it happened in front of witnesses who were recording on video, not the colour of the victims’ skin.
Definitely for the most part. There’s certainly a race component but the narrative that it’s only that is just divisive bullshit.
Sure. Racism will always be a factor.
Stop trying to divide us when we are trying to unite. The white people that are getting killed are the ones trying to help and warn their neighbors. Keep making them feel guilty and they may just give up.
This. People were already protesting ICE long before Renée Good got killed. The racists, white supremacists, and nazis are still not protesting today. They don’t care if a murdered protestor is white. A Nazi is going to view any white protesters as race traitors. What’s happening right now is a dramatic shift in the scope of what ICE is doing. Rather than simply targeting immigrants, it’s being deployed against protestors and in crowd control efforts. The extent of people they’re targeting and how they’re targeting them is dramatically expanding as well.
In 2025, at least 32 people died in custody after being detained by ICE. This has caused massive protests nationwide.
But in 2025, there were only 2 people known to have been shot and killed by ICE:
Silverio Villegas González - September 12 - undocumented immigrant shot and killed by ICE in his car after dropping his kids off at school in Chicago. Video circulated online of his window getting broken out and him getting dragged out of the car after being shot.
Keith Porter - December 31 - African American father shot and killed in Los Angeles while allegedly setting off fireworks. There are no videos of what happened.
The first people shot and killed by ICE in 2026 include:
Renée Good - January 7 - woman shot and killed in her vehicle in Minneapolis. Videos of the incident circulated online. She was not actively protesting.
Alex Pretti - January 24 - protestor murdered execution style in Minneapolis for attempting to help a woman get safely to a sidewalk.
That’s it. This image includes completely incorrect information. Jaime Alanís Garcia died from breaking his neck after allegedly falling 30 feet from a building while a cannabis farm was being raided by ICE in Ventura County, California. ICE and CBP claims they were not targeting him. There’s no video of the incident.
Stuff is dramatically escalating, and it’s presumably about to get much much worse.
I agree. I’m minority and I support starting to be pissed at this at any level and time. Just stick to it until its not a problem anymore.
Why do you see it as divisive to point out how many more victims there have been? If your immediate reaction to this comic was to get defensive, I think you should take a minute and do some introspection.
It’s more the implication that the white victims shouldn’t matter and people shouldn’t be upset because the victims happened to be white this time.
While also conveniently ignoring the fact that people were already upset about ICE violence even before they killed white people…
Nowhere does the comic say that though?
The subtext is glaringly obvious, and pretending not to see it is disingenuous at best.
Nowhere does the comic say that any victim doesn’t matter. Nowhere does the comic say you shouldn’t be upset. Quite the opposite, the comic says you should’ve been upset a long time ago.
I think the fact that you’re reading the most aggressive interpretation you can think of into it in order to find an excuse to be defensive says more about yourself than it does about the comic.
Except for the simple fact that a lot of people already have been upset for a long time.
The comic assumes that people are just now getting upset. If that’s your take every time a victim happens to be white, then that says more about you than it does about me.
Sure, some people have been upset already. But the difference in volume before and after the most recent killings shows that quite a lot of people are just now getting upset. If that isn’t you, good, but then why are you acting like this comic is a personal attack on you?
If pointing out a racial bias is all it takes to make some people give up, then… that sounds like a pretty big issue idk
Nice try twisting my words.
His point is clear and based, there is a structural bigotry problem in the USA.
I cannot understand how you are so much up voted, and he is so much down voted 🤷🏽
No shit. I think even the bigots themselves know this by now, they just choose to embrace it.
Americans are raised to associate with race and when something hits “closer to home” it’s more likely to trigger more people. This happens with gender issues, sexual orientation, etc. We should all care about these issues, but the statistics of activation on an issue will always be higher with groups that identify with the target.
This holds true with all these folks (assumably POC) who are upset about people getting upset about ICE murdering people, implying that we shouldn’t care because the victims were white; and implying that anybody who gets upset when the victims happen to be white are somehow racists, even though they have no clue how that particular person responded to the killings of George Floyd, Trayvon Martin, and all the other incidents that precipitated racial justice movements.
You might be a white person, and perhaps you support a racial justice movement whenever it happens, but is that going to matter a few years from now when they repeat the same old tired rhetoric that “white people never cared when the victims were POC”?
But if we’re not supposed to care now, simply because the victims happened to be white, then anybody pushing that line of rhetoric are ironically the actual racists.
Wow what a lot of fucking straw.
As much straw as implying “All white people are racist because none of them cared about ICE until some white people got murdered”?
White people who got murdered while… obstructing ICE? As if they didn’t care until after they got murdered?
I’m a non-racialized person from a non-English speaking EU country.
But my understanding of OP post is that he wanted to raise some rational info that people in a justified state of rage should have. Info that could open a rational debate and/or introspection exercise of how mass media has been shown them and, also, how people are reacting to them… But mostly, it cemented the rage showing how systemic is the state violence against the people.
Reading some answers, my reaction has been:
WTF: Don’t kill the messenger,
redactedkill ICE.What is a “non-racialized person”? I’m genuinely curious, because in america people say things like “colorblindness is racism,” and that even though I tried not to see race when I was younger, somehow that made me racist?
OP was not raising “rational info,” he posted a political cartoon criticizing people for being upset about ICE murdering people who happened to be white. There’s nothing rational about that.
Even r/comics on reddit has more interesting/constructive takes on this comic, which is worrying for Lemmy.
This one Redditor (Calli5031) puts it much more elegantly than me:
it’s absolutely a good thing that white people are starting to get organized and get out into the streets to resist the regime. it’s also frustrating (and indicative of how deep the white supremacist rot runs in our society) that the point at which “people can’t excuse state violence as an occasional occurrence” isn’t the decades of abuse, rape, and murder of migrants and people and color, but the point at which it disturbs white safety and comfort.
i’m sure plenty of the current crop of white anti-ICE protesters were probably against state violence in the abstract sense, but the fact that they weren’t moved to action before now isn’t a neutral fact existing in some contextless, ahistorical vacuum, it is reflective of the fact that, consciously or not, white america simply does not value black lives the same as white ones.
That would make sense, there are a lot more conservative bootlickers on reddit.
I cannot understand how you are so much up voted, and he is so much down voted 🤷🏽
i can. white people feel offended.
I guess if it doesn’t matter to you if white people feel offended, then it shouldn’t matter to you if POC feel offended either, right? Equal rights, after all.
If such-and-such group of people’s feelings don’t matter, no one’s do. You can’t make exceptions just because you’re not from such-and-such group; otherwise you have no rational basis to assert that such-and-such group can’t make exceptions about you.
See: categorical imperative; universal maxims
Keep pretending no white people supported BLM in 2020, then be surprised when white people start their own movements instead of letting you bully them into following yours.
If your issue is with the people saying “ICE violence is not okay,” then you’re part of the problem.
I’m one of the upvoters. Never really looked at it through a racism lense, more of a Dem/Rep lense. Wish libs had more of a problems with death in ICE custody during the Biden years. Wish libs had more of a problem with deportations during the Obama years. Wish libs had more of a problem with wars and dropping of bombs on Muslim countries during Obama years. But the comments here are right. It sucks that this is what it takes, but I’ll take it. It sucks that libs cared so much for Ukraine because they’re white, but I’ll take it. It sucks that middle east journalist have to find some white looking people in Palestine to get people to care, but I’ll take it.
Yes, you are right that we all should have been up in arms sooner, but we weren’t. It sucks. And here we are now, fighting the same fight; can we all agree who the real enemy is and focus on that for the moment?
Why pretend people weren’t already upset about ICE before they killed Good and Pretti? Why feed this person’s delusions that white people didn’t care before this?
That’s kind of insulting to all the people (yes, white people included) who have been protesting and actively resisting since this whole thing started, don’t you think?
Am I pretending that?
Good and Pretti themselves were both white frontline protesters, among many others who have been at it for a long time. They’re role models.
Whatever reading comprehension disaster is going on in this comment section is something else
If you aren’t arguing that white people have only begun protesting/caring about things now because they think it affects them, then your comic does not make its point clearly.
In any case, after double-checking, two of the non-white people you directly point out as shot and killed by ICE were undocumented. I’m not actually sure one was even shot since skimming a few sources indicates he fell off a roof and died from that during a raid. Obviously being undocumented doesn’t justify getting killed, but that’s another difference (citizen vs. undocumented noncitizen) between Good and Pretti that you’ve chosen to ignore in favor of solely basing your comic on them being white or not.
Also, AFAIK the Porter incident doesn’t have video footage (can’t remember if the others do either). The Good and Pretti cases have significant footage, so it’s particularly easy to spread clips over social media.
Oddly enough, you just contradicted your own message and then blamed it on my reading comprehension. Way to go.
Maybe try examining how your comic reflects on people like Good and Pretti, who you yourself describe as white frontline protestors, and who gave their lives while protesting against what’s going on.
Maybe don’t paint an entire race of people with a broad brush, and then people won’t call you racist.
Well good, now that you’re focused on the moment, it’s a perfect time to remind you (or make you aware) that ICE actually murdered many more people than most think, that there are thousands of people “lost in the system” that ICE can’t track and whose lawyers and families can’t find, and that the way the agency operates is a systemic issue that has existed for over a decade, long before the recent escalations.
Now you know the actual scope of your enemy: defunding them isn’t enough, that shit needs to be pulled by the roots and dismantled piece by piece until there’s not a trace of them left. If it’s not done all the way through, it won’t end with Trump (after all it continued operating and killing under Biden). If people only protest the public murders instead of the very existence of ICE and their concentration camp system well… the camps will still be there.
See, that’s exactly what I’m doing. Making sure we’re fighting the same fight, and understanding who the enemy really is.
I love how badly you’re getting ratio’d.
Take this opportunity for self reflection.
This comment section is the only platform on which I’m being ratio’d fwiw.
Been making satire long enough to not care much when people get mad, I stand firmly by the things I write.
Thanks for sharing it.
Might be an indication that this audience thinks more deeply about what you’re implying. Which 100% tracks with my experience on every social media platform compared to Lemmy.
The Fediverse suffers from extreme whiteness, that’s all there is to it.
I think that’s a better explanation when comparing the nature/contents of the conversations it’s spawning on different platforms.
Not the first time I’m noticing it either.
You would have absolutely no fucking way of knowing that is true. Go ahead, keep attacking people you pretend are your allies. Definitely what’s needed now.
These incidents are totally only getting attention because of race and Lemmy is the most racist. Totally nothing to do with the other killings you list not being on video. Totally not that /s
You talk as if whiteness is a disease, and then you act all self-righteous when people treat you like you’re being a bigot?
You’re doing so much to stop ICE by telling people they shouldn’t care about these incidents simply because the victims were white.
I don’t think you know what satire is
the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
I doubt anything can be more satirical than making a comic that portrays in an exaggerated way some people’s blind spot for racial issues until they affect them personally in the context of contemporary politics.
Guessing your definition is “things I agree with are satire and things that upset me aren’t” :)
The only satire you seem to produce is how you try to defend your work.
Please check which of these you think your comic is
[ ] humour [ ] irony [ ] exaggeration [ ] ridicule
I’m not sure why you think I’m upset. If I’m upset by anything its you whining about a handful of American deaths while Israel is committing a genocide. Why are you so racially biased?
Reading comprehender.
Is it not a racial bias when you say “People shouldn’t care about this because the victims were white this time.”
If people are upset about ICE violence, why break the momentum and sow division simply because the victims weren’t POCs? What are you trying to accomplish?
That’s a wild comment section you got here. Do they realize that if they were already doing some shit to resist USian gestapo, the comic isn’t about them?
Or maybe they feel called out because white folks getting murdered is actually what made them move their ass, I dunno 🤷♀️It was also because of the people filming the recent cases from a lot of angles that helped these cases get spread. The media coverage was vastly different about these two as well, so it doesn’t reflect the reality to say it happens only because white people are getting killed
I went over to r/comics to see your comic over there and saw a 20k upvoted comic saying those who didn’t vote for Kamala are responsible for Alex Prettis death. There’s a comment on it by the r/comics modteam saying that if you didn’t vote for Kamala because of nonsense reasons like “genocide” (with the quotes) you’re responsible for Trump.
Yep.
People should’ve already been angry. But better late than never.
People were already angry. Why is everyone acting like people are just now suddenly getting upset?
If everyone’s effort gets erased every time a white person is made a victim, and suddenly we can’t be upset anymore because a victim happened to be white, then what are we truly accomplishing?
What’s the real message behind this post?
That’s pretty much what I mean.
This post is insinuating that a number of the people upset now should have been upset when it wasn’t white people dying.
And I agree. Many of us were already upset.
But making that point this way is unhelpful. It feels like potentially a way to divide those who are trying to resist. “I was angry before it was mainstream, you new protesters are racists.”
Which could very well not be the intention of the person making the point. They could be trying to simply say, “Understand that people had already been killed, and if you knew that and weren’t angry, be better” or something.
But it is so incredibly easy to make people in big tents infight and focus on idealogical purity rather than uniting to fight the opposition. And it’s something we need to avoid if we want to be successful.
When it comes to fighting fascism, my enemy’s enemy is my friend.
So on the assumption that this comic was posted in good faith, I think merciful correction or gentle disagreement is more useful.
You’re definitely right about that, but they’re just gonna double down on calling our arguments strawmen and digging in their heels, when in reality they’re the ones making racist strawmen…
Lemmings gonna lem, I guess? 🤷♀️
Yeah. Memes like this are making the perfect the enemy of the good. Is there an issue? Sure. Is this the right time for that issue? I’m not so sure about that one.
I don’t believe there’s a bad time to be pointing out racial bias.
The movement is barely getting started, having a proper sense of scale by getting the full picture of ICE’s death toll only makes it more unbearable, that should make the movement more motivated, not less.
When it discourages people acting for change from fear or guilt around racism. It seems like a purposefully timed red herring.
“People getting upset when white people are murdered is racial bias” Get fucked.
Don’t act like people are demotivated by the scale of the violence. People are demotivated because you’re calling them racist for being upset when the victims happened to be white, when chances are these same people were already upset even before white people were murdered.
Stop making up this imaginary scenario in which white people never cared until the violence was done against a white person. You’re ignoring the countless efforts that white people have made previously for racial justice movements, all the white people who supported BLM, and all the white people who have been out protesting against ICE since even before they murdered Renee Good.
Damn you mad.
Done putting absurd words in my mouth anytime soon or do you have a few more comments like that left in you?
The words truly are absurd, but they’re a direct paraphrase of your message. Self-conscious wolves moment.
But go ahead and ignore the part about facts that directly contradict your claims. It wouldn’t be the internet if you couldn’t conveniently ignore all the evidence that says you should re-examine your position.
I’m not sure you’re allowed to discuss the concept of self-awareness.
That’s what a fascist would say.
