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    But a better way to prevent it from getting there is pool goggles ! (and not ski goggles. Those have vents !)

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      On the flip side, ski goggles will probably fair a lot better against paintballs

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          Or get actual safety goggles instead of something made for a different purpose?

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            They don’t make safety goggles for gas, those are called gas masks and if you have an extra 600 bucks or so kicking around for a respirator with an impact rated face shield that is absolutely the best tool for the job. For the rest of us $20 for swim goggles, safety glasses, and an N95 is likely to be “good enough”.

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              A pair of safety goggles that seal well against your eyes will help you a ton against tear gas. You’re still going to have breathing issues but you’ll avoid the eye pain.

              I used this trick when I needed to cut lots of onions.

              Gas masks just aren’t practical for large crowds due to the expense/training required. You’re looking at $150 new, filters being about $40+ new. Sure you can get surplus for cheaper if you can find it, but most people can’t, not enough to go around.

              Also filters should be replaced after being esposed to chemicals they’re designed to protect against. You probably could get away with using tear filters exposed to year gas.

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              They don’t make safety goggles for gas, those are called gas masks

              I mean, sure, the cheap safety googles (like this, not this) aren’t going to be perfect against a tear gas canister or something like that, but I assume they’d at least help some (buying you time to act before it starts seeping in), and be half-decent against directed sprays. I guess if you really wanted to wear swimming goggles under them you could, but it almost seems like overkill unless you plan to be right up on the front line, goading the ICE goons to mace you.

              My first inclination would’ve been to just grab the PPE I already have for home DIY (spray painting and such), which are googles like above, paired with a reusable half-face respirator with P100 cartridges (a 3M 65021, I think). If cobbling together sports equipment really is better than that, I want to understand why and I’m not sure I do yet.

              Also, even if we are talking about a full face respirator, where’d you come up with the $600 figure? What’s wrong with something like a 3M 6800 for $125?

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              N95 is probably better than nothing, but for these purposes it’s probably far from good enough

              Most pepper sprays and such are oil based, and n-rated respirators are not oil resistant. For that you really want an R-, or even better P-rated mask for oily mists.

              Disposable masks suitable for that do exist, but more often you’re going to find reusable cartridge-based ones which will have some additional ratings that probably aren’t relevant to specifically pepper spray but could maybe be relevant for other

              White labeled cartridges are suitable for acid cases like chlorine

              Black labeled are suitable for organic vapors like from paint thinners and other solvents

              Yellow are suitable for both

              Green are rated for ammonia and methylamine

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      At a store like harbor freight you can get safety goggles, like safety glasses but goggles. They probably fit both issues.

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      The issue with milk, according to the ophtalmologist’s video, is that when you got pepper sprayed there’s a chance your cornea has been damaged, so that milk can give you an infection.

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        Milk of Magnesia is not dairy milk. It’s an over the counter medication with antacid properties similar to Pepto bismol. Although taken orally they are not used in all the same instances.

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    There’s been a few studies on this, and most of the supposed remedies have been found to be little or no more effective than just rinsing with water or saline.

    That said, in theory, I feel like baby shampoo is probably a pretty good bet, it makes sense on paper. Most pepper sprays are oil-based, soap/shampoo is a surfactant so it helps to rinse out those oily substances with water, and baby shampoo in particular is non-irritating to the eyes.

    There’s a few purpose-made products for this, I’ve seen a few recommendations for sudecon wipes from first-responder types. I have no recommendations about how to best get your hands on those sorts of products in case you’re worried about leaving a paper trail.

    For my own personal kit (that I just try to keep well-stacked for any eventuality, I have pepper spray on my dog’s leash so I figured I should know what to do if I even accidentally mace myself) I’ve settled on sterile saline eye wash and baby shampoo. Haven’t had to use it yet, so I can’t attest to the effectiveness, but I figure it’s gotta be better than nothing

    And it makes enough sense on paper that I figure if nothing else maybe I’ll be able to placebo effect myself into believing it did something.