• dev_null@lemmy.ml
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          Probably depends on the store, but the 2 times I bought a laptop in my life, both stores had a No OS option in the drop-down, which brought the price down. (One actually came with no OS, the other came with FreeDOS IIRC for some reason)

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          Cant say for them, but I’ve never owned a laptop until about 6 months ago, and thats used enterprise hardware off ebay.

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              HP zbook 17 G6. Big, thiccc, can take a 2.5 inch drive AND a slim disk drive (but it might be hard to find the front/bezel piece to use one properly), and 2/3 m.2 slots (i think sata might be disabled if i use one?)

              No soldered ram BS, and I’ve got an 8c/16t xeon. I spent about $300. G6 and G5 only difference is the processor IIRC

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          I owned only MacBooks and not pre-built PCs, so it’s the same for me. Never bought a single Windows license, even the OEM one.

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      Yep, and not a small price at that. While the home license is not as expensive, it’s still mid two digits. IIRC pro version typically costs around 100 € even as the bundled OEM license, especially if you’re buying a laptop from a smaller manufacturer. That’s the amount I remember the price going down if you drop windows licensing from a corporate laptop lease.

      In any way it’s not an insignificant price.

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        The OEM license price is also based on the performance of the PC (specifically the CPU iirc). Low powered devices might get a OEM home license for only $30, but a OEM home license for a gaming PC is going to be more like $80-90. Pro licenses will be more of course.

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          Makes sense, there wouldn’t be many 200-300 € laptops if Windows cost 80-100 € for them.

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      23 hours ago

      You’re forgetting piracy. I didn’t buy any parts with OEM licenses. Granted I went grey market for my Windows 10 so I paid someone like $20.

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      At least nowadays it’s so much easier to find FreeDOS laptops. I remember that it was not a thing here 20 years ago, and Windows was included in the warranty so you couldn’t remove it for at least 2 years (if you care about warranty).

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      Nah, not for me. I have only built my own PC’s since 2006. If i had a laptop (and a few surfaces) it was through work.

      I know all about the OEM license thats now hardcoded on the board due to my job. Our company was buying devices with windows, essentially paying more per device, then imaging them with our image with an enterprise license…

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      Yes, but no. They know you’ll pay (e.g.) $700 for a PC. If windows were free, you’d still be paying $700. It would just go to a different billionaire.