• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 hours ago

    I worked in news media in the Bush years and I got to see first hand how our national news promoted the lies coming from the Bush administration and helping spearhead support for an Iraq invasion.

    The media has been a problem for a long time.

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      NYT endorsed Iraq invasion even though there was no evidence of WMDs and the rest of the world was against it. Surprise, no WMDs were found.

      Interestingly, some companies did steal billions upon billions of dollars and we blew the national debt up. Strange that outcome …

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        NYT also sat on the story about NSA wiretapping US citizens for over a year at the behest of the Bush admin. Later, DNI Clapper would deny that spying on Americans happened “wittingly,” a denial which would push Edward Snowden to leak information thst proved otherwise.

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          The NYT also sat on the story of Trump having Maduro kidnapped. They (along with WaPo) were informed of the operation 24 hours before it happened.

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            Absolutely, but I think right now it’s important to be able to show that this behavior goes back decades and isn’t some new phenomenon that so many people act as though it is.

            The NSA story they sat on was in 2007 when they published it, so literally has been 20 years this year.

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      I’m still pretty pissed off about that. It’s when I learned that a huge number of my fellow citizens are really stupid. Covid was when I learned that they’re also hateful pieces of shit.

      Freedom fries, you guys. Woohoo.

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      Iraq II - Shock and Awe was definitely a huge part of my political awakening. I’m still saddened (but no longer amazed) that more people didn’t figure it out at the time, and that so many still haven’t figured it out.

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        People still think the NYT is some left leaning (or even “far left” in some circles) source. It’s fucking absurd.

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        The pride I never had, the nationality that I never felt
        Saddam was bad, and the American’s even more so
        They made me grow like i was missing part of my torso
        But I never picked up a grenade in my garden
        I never saw people I love die starving
        I never saw my family die through many years of sanctions
        While the rulers family lived in palaces and mansions
        Never had a family member kidnapped for a ransom
        I never lost a friend to violence that was random
        Bombings, occupation, torture, intimidation
        A million dead people doesn’t equal liberation

        https://youtu.be/nOg8Roq8CtY