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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

This has happened so many times

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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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    You’re continuing to frame the people of Donetsk and Luhansk, that have been fighting for their lives against the Banderites in Kiev, as “Russian-backed forces.” Kiev is murdering civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk, because the citizens of the Donbass have been resisting the fascist Kiev regime.

    It isn’t at all slander to call the far-right coup government Banderites. From @yogthos@lemmy.ml

    • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA151VA/
    • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoW75J5bnnE | transcript
    • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/10/us-imperialism-and-the-ukraine-coup/
    • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/26/robert-parry-the-mess-that-nuland-made/
    • Monthly Review Online, 2021: The Maidan massacre in Ukraine: revelations from trials and investigations https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/
    • Maidan coup thread https://archive.ph/BAxYc
    • Coup details https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/
    • Don’t Get it Wrong: Ukraine and “Israel” are Both Tools of US-EU Imperialism
    • An article from August 2021 advocating inflicting a military defeat on Russia in Ukraine to subjugate it and draw it away from China https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
    • An important piece that reveals Washington, via CIA paramilitaries, has been fighting a proxy war against Russia in the Donbas since, it’s implied, 2014. https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-secret-cia-training-program-in-ukraine-helped-kyiv-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html
    • NYT coup coverage with CIA involvement https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
    • Nordstream US involvement evidence https://thegrayzone.com/2023/06/27/evidence-nord-stream-underwater-expedition/
    • The US harvesting Ukraine for minerals https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-us-rare-earth-minerals-deal-8566241ea0e121a30437d845357055d8

    Yanukovich wasn’t overthrown by anyone

    Bullshit, he was coup’d in the Euromaidan coup.

    The Ukrainian people are suing for peace. The problem is that every peace agreement proposed by Russia demands that Ukraine disarms, and that NATO countries are not allowed to give security guarantees. That opens the door for Russia to immediately violate the peace agreement like they have done dozens of times already since 2014.

    Ukraine has broken the Minsk agreements every time, which is why Russia doesn’t honor them once broken.

    What gives Russia the right to own the 5 oblasts, on what grounds should Ukraine cede them?

    The fact that they want to be a part of the Russian Federation, not the Banderite regime.

    This is a leftist, anti-imperialist perspective. Any party in the European Left Alliance would agree with my assessment.

    I find it difficult to believe that this is a leftist, anti-imperialist perspective if it minimizes the role of imperialism in the conflict, and how the western imperialists provoked it.

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