I watch cyclists every day hop right off the road at red lights just to use the pedestrian cross walk out of turn and skip the wait. There is literally no reason to do this other than having a death wish.
Most of the sensors that make the lights change will not sense bicycles, so the light will never change.
In many places, getting a jump on the car traffic between the light and the next is much safer, because you are getting passed mid-block instead of at the intersection, where you are much more likely to be hit by a turning car.
Jumping the light usually means being noticed by drivers while you are moving and they are not, which is great because drivers are notoriously bad at noticing at noticing anything smaller than a 7-11 when they are moving. I have been hit 4 times while stopped at stop signs and red lights, three of which while IN MY CAR, because drivers simply cannot be trusted to pay attention.
Usually waiting at the light with the cars means the car in front of you is belching exhaust right into your face.
I now live in a city with very good cycling infrastructure, and a vast majority of people wait for the light, because when the infrastructure is designed well, it is safer to do so.
Perhaps it is safer cycling across a crosswalk while the only other traffic is pedestrians, instead of going with the flow of cars when cars turning left or right can run you over.
Perhaps you can run over pedestrians if you do so? FFS, just stop making the ashole moves you accuse car drivers of, if you want to be taken seriously!
Never went to ER with a kid almost by killed by a 100kg male with a racing bicycle, didn’t you?
No, but I did go to the hospital with by boyfriend who got run over while riding straight on a straight road with right of way by a car turning left without stopping at the stop sign, so if all you want to do is throw around anecdotes be my guest. Statistics say way more people (including kids on sidewalks) get hurt by cars.
I dont want to throw anecdotes, but as a walking parent I see way to much cyclists bevaving like assholes.
Is it really this hard to accept that requesting the right of way on a street ( which I wont debate - don’t get me wrong here!), induces giving it to pedestrians too?
All this comments are full of people whining how the are endagered by cars, while using this to justify endangering pedestrian.
I’m saying that statistically cyclists endangering pedestrians is a non-issue because it happens so much more rarely than cars endangering pedestrians or cyclists. Bringing it up all the time only fuels carbrains and car lobbies.
And I say a comment section full of people justifying the fact that act wrongfully, illegal and dangerous is not to be rectified by a the fact that others are harmful.
I wouldn’t say cars are not dangerous, but - be the statistics as it may - grown ups may use the sidewalk if they walk. Shall they skip the redlight as much as they want. As long if they get off them bikes.
What I see here, though not by you specifically, is at best carbrain attitude transferred in cyclists. People saying “me” first and don’t act up to the rights they demand by keeping the obligation in mind. You don’t want to get hurt and thats fine. Why don’t they think a second to realize that pedestrians dont want to, too?
I feel like have made my point and if there really is no way to agree, than it may be so. I have to stay alert when I’ m out with the kids anyway…
Actually just today I saw two incidents making me think, that the ones I despise may have just loaded their bycicles off their BMWs and acted up to what they really are: reckless driviers. No matter whether they are in lycra or in lether seats.
I don’t think you are mature enough to have a driver’s license. You should probably turn it back to where you got it from and leave driving to the adults
Cyclists act like a cyclist when it is convenient and like a pedestrian when it is convenient.
Cyclists act like a car when it is the only way to avoid getting killed in car-centric hellscapes.
Yeah basically this. Most cities are not built for cycling, so you gotta just try to survive there how you can
I watch cyclists every day hop right off the road at red lights just to use the pedestrian cross walk out of turn and skip the wait. There is literally no reason to do this other than having a death wish.
Wait what are you mad at here, I’m confused.
Do you even cycle?
There are several reasons to do this:
I now live in a city with very good cycling infrastructure, and a vast majority of people wait for the light, because when the infrastructure is designed well, it is safer to do so.
Perhaps it is safer cycling across a crosswalk while the only other traffic is pedestrians, instead of going with the flow of cars when cars turning left or right can run you over.
Perhaps you can run over pedestrians if you do so? FFS, just stop making the ashole moves you accuse car drivers of, if you want to be taken seriously! Never went to ER with a kid almost by killed by a 100kg male with a racing bicycle, didn’t you?
No, but I did go to the hospital with by boyfriend who got run over while riding straight on a straight road with right of way by a car turning left without stopping at the stop sign, so if all you want to do is throw around anecdotes be my guest. Statistics say way more people (including kids on sidewalks) get hurt by cars.
I dont want to throw anecdotes, but as a walking parent I see way to much cyclists bevaving like assholes.
Is it really this hard to accept that requesting the right of way on a street ( which I wont debate - don’t get me wrong here!), induces giving it to pedestrians too?
All this comments are full of people whining how the are endagered by cars, while using this to justify endangering pedestrian.
Do you really think thats justified?
I’m saying that statistically cyclists endangering pedestrians is a non-issue because it happens so much more rarely than cars endangering pedestrians or cyclists. Bringing it up all the time only fuels carbrains and car lobbies.
And I say a comment section full of people justifying the fact that act wrongfully, illegal and dangerous is not to be rectified by a the fact that others are harmful.
I wouldn’t say cars are not dangerous, but - be the statistics as it may - grown ups may use the sidewalk if they walk. Shall they skip the redlight as much as they want. As long if they get off them bikes.
What I see here, though not by you specifically, is at best carbrain attitude transferred in cyclists. People saying “me” first and don’t act up to the rights they demand by keeping the obligation in mind. You don’t want to get hurt and thats fine. Why don’t they think a second to realize that pedestrians dont want to, too?
I feel like have made my point and if there really is no way to agree, than it may be so. I have to stay alert when I’ m out with the kids anyway…
Actually just today I saw two incidents making me think, that the ones I despise may have just loaded their bycicles off their BMWs and acted up to what they really are: reckless driviers. No matter whether they are in lycra or in lether seats.
I don’t think you are mature enough to have a driver’s license. You should probably turn it back to where you got it from and leave driving to the adults