• jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
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    I worked at a bank branch for 7 years. They always catch the guy. Not sometimes. Always. Mostly because we didn’t carry much cash in the first place and a bank robber never robs 1 bank and calls it quits. It’s simply not sustainable in the long run.

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      Counterpoint: when my wife’s ex-husband was deep in the throes of heroin addiction, he managed to rob the same bank twice and get away with it both times.

      You might be right that he’d be caught eventually, but he OD’d before he could try a third time.

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        I had been robbed a few times. The last time I got robbed, I said “See you next time!”

        Unfortunately for that person, it was the last time.

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    The risk reward on bank robbery is not good. They don’t carry much money for you to be able to grab, the serial numbers will be recorded and traced back when they show up spent, and they put a lot of effort into catching robbers. Any thing that causes a bank to lose money is made into a serious crime they prosecute hard.

    Idk what’s a better way to get some money if you have to, but robbing a bank is not it. Unless you can do it well, some dudes in Sweden hijacked a helicopter and stole a 17 million dollar equivalent bank transfer on some skyscraper that had a helipad. They supposedly caught them, but never recovered the money as I’m aware.

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      Idk what’s a better way to get some money if you have to

      busking isn’t bad. if you don’t know how to play, choose a quieter instrument and learn in public.

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        Not so far away from my place there is a big mall where at the entrance there is is this guy playing styrian harmonica (I think, but his is smaller size and is 100% not Accordion). He has a speaker that plays backing-track.

        I play an instrument and know a thing or two about music. I swear that this guy just keeps playing random chords (more like random notes that doesnt make a valid chord 90% of the time) while backing-track covers him up. He must be quite often playing there as I see him on my random visits to the mall almost every time.

        He doesn’t even try to hide his skills, as some fake street musicians sometimes do. I wonder if he gets any money from busking.

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        There was some movie (rather old, from 40s-50s I believe) about how a gang tried to rob a big supermarket they worked for. And after they were caught at the end of the movie, the police inspector was explaining how stupid they are with arguments like this: Imagine you stole merchandise for a 10’000 (movie was old, so I suppose that still was a serious sum), you wouldn’t be able to sell it more than for 2-3k. Then you need to rent a lorry for all night and better for a few days to move out the stolen goods, a few hundred minus. (Then some other expenses I don’t remember…) And then look at yourself, divide all what’s left among yourselves and you get a few hundred dollars each at best while risking a huge prison times.

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          I think that’s why gangs are more likely to just rob a truck in transit instead of burgle a facility. Same with pirates and highwaymen pre industrial, go where the cops aren’t and the goods are.

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        It’s got around a 60% clearance rate which is far higher than most other crimes but there are surprisingly low injury and deaths associated with them. You’d probably have more luck stealing a rich person’s phone to move money from their accounts to hidden accounts or crypto, destroy some of their property as a distraction to steal other property, blackmail them, etc.

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      I think that is what ICE will be doing, if they aren’t already. Just go into house, traffick the people for a payday, and simply live there until the utilities are turned off. Rinse and repeat.

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      Fun fact: you can legally just steal a house if nobody is living in it for an extended period of time and you get away with living in it for an extended period of time (not legal advice btw)

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            CA has them I know.

            Generally the squatting has to be open, and hostile. Idk why hostile that has always seemed odd to me. But you want to get bills in your name as soon as possible for instance. You want to make some improvements to the property if you can.

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              Around here you have to pay the property taxes for several years in a row, if the actual owners realize after a few years and start again, you’re just out the money. Which… seems like a good way to only pay your property taxes once every few years, if you don’t mind your property going to hell (lots of folks around here do not, based on the number of burnt out houses).

              Civil forfeiture could actually be improved in some cases, like if you just give up and move along and your house is a nuisance attracting crime and squatters, your neighbors should be able to fix that by petitioning for ownership, instead of having to wait until the house is worthless and likely burned down for anything to be possible.

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                You sound like someone from detroit. Lots of abandoned and burnt down houses there anyway.

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              Idk why hostile that has always seemed odd to me.

              Maybe to prevent the law from being abused for capital transfer tax fraud. But that’s just a guess.

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                I think also, like a neighbor built their driveway over my property under the old owner (2 of them did actually, one he put a chain over it in a couple places, other one woman called the sheriff and made him back off and let her steal that little bit of what is now my land. But her use maybe is like hostile, at this point I couldn’t get it back, although this is a little different than squatter laws it’s kind of from a similar place in the law I think.

                So her use was hostile, so I can’t get it back. If it wasn’t, if she just asked can I use it, and I would say sure, then I could reclaim that piece, because I was letting her use it. Still seems weird to me but I think that’s how it works sometimes.

                Neighbors are dicks out here, some of them, always trying to prevent people with property from accessing the private road network they have gates up on. Judge finally told them to fuck off and threatened to jail them, so we all got the code, but they can change it again at a moment’s notice. I should get some thermite, if they lock me out and just melt through that bitch. But that’s all another story.

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                  Similar scenario but without the hostile element:

                  My nan and her neighbor back in the 60s cut a shared driveway leading to both garages. The houses are on a hill, that sort of flattened out a bit on the property line, mostly on the neighbors side, so grating that one section to flat was just cheaper. By the 70s, the neighbor had passed, and their adult children moved out of state. The house had collapsed in and was vacant until it sold a couple years ago.

                  In the intervening years, she made various improvements to the drive, first having it built up, then eventually my BIL had it paved for her. By our states laws, she met every element adverse possession of that strip of land, except it being hostile, because it was initially agreed to, preventing her gaining outright ownership. She did, however, eventually apply for an uncontested ‘right of way’ over the property, guaranteeing her access, and preventing a new owner from just buldozing the driveway and forcing her to cut a new and costly one into the hill on her land.

                  Fortunately, the new owner was also nice about it, and despite rebuilding with access to the house coming from the side street(his lots on a corner) did not try to get the ROW moved or removed, and instead added it as a restriction onto the deed before selling the house on, removing any future owners ability to contest it.

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                  Can’t you just be “hostile” and take back what’s yours? And yeah thermite that bitch.

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    I don’t even need a house but high density housing is shifting towards being built as a luxury because its more profitable (and less work) to sell a couple to the people that DO pay than keep everything always occupied for affordable pricing.

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      Outside the post WWII bubble most new construction is always luxury focused. The old luxury becomes the entry and mid level places.