• venusaur@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Had a lot to unpack there huh?

    1. I never said anything about AI being good or bad. Your comment is misdirected.

    2. The criticism is of everybody joining the anti-AI circlejerk like they’re actually doing something to help. It’s like Lemmy is just a big anti-AI support group. Instead you can promote groups that are driving legislation to control AI, groups that are helping people affected by AI, develop and share data to support your sentiments towards AI.

    I get it. Wanting to belong to a community is one of the most human traits there is and the anti-AI circlejerk is at its essence a protest against digital conformity and for conserving what it means to be human.

    It’s also sad to see how desperate people are to belong to something that they’ll just regurgitate the same thoughtless messages over and over with no real progress holding on to every last bit of connection until it inevitably fades away and everybody is left feeling like they fought the good fight when really they just jerked each other off until they bled into the abyss and life kept moving on without them.

    Just my 2¢. 🤪

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      14 hours ago

      I like the term community pilled instead of anti AI. Simply placing meaningful human interaction over soulless machine interaction.

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        14 hours ago

        That’s great except the anti-AI community is actually not very inviting. But it is human to be flawed.

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          13 hours ago

          I would hereby like to issue a formal invitation to the pro-human community!

          With the emphasis lying on breaking free from the fake and inauthentic interactions of digital life. You can still have a digital life and even use a some AI, but the human spirit should not be smothered in the way that it is now.

          (partial sarcasm) Join today rediscover your humanity!

          Edit: Preaching to the choir here I imagine

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            13 hours ago

            Thanks! I use AI every day and I talk to people every day. I think there are a lot of great uses for AI, and a lot of bad ones, and am excited for what the future of AI has in store, but by no means am I saying that everybody should be using it. I would love to hear what the community thinks!

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              I find it difficult to pick a side, so I guess I don’t. I am a researcher and I also work with ML models everyday to make things that can help real people. But I would hesitate to say that LLMs have been a net positive for humanity.

              I guess what it comes down to is that the potential for misuse feel limitless, while the potential for good feels limited to me. Technology is only as good as the people using it. That says less about the technology and more about the current state of the world.

              Although I think that the world would have been better without LLMs, that is wishful thinking. It’s better to tackle the underlying problems that are being amplified by LLMS, namely: in-authenticity, misinformation and online slop.

              That is why I come here, this place still has some sense of authenticity. Like us, engaging in real discussion, It’s not a proper meaningful human interaction, but hey we all want to relax online sometimes.

              I would be happy to hear your thoughts.

              Best,

              A real fellow human.

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                11 hours ago

                I think we often have to try things before they’re fully baked in order to make progress and unfortunately in the US and many other parts of the world, corporations bastardize these innovations, steer them in all sorts of unintended directions and push on people to drive revenue.

                I agree to some degree that LLM’s have a greater potential for bad than they do good, at least for now, but there’s a lot of good in many things today that may have started out that way in the past. The internet was and, really still is, an avenue for potentially very dangerous activity, but there’s also a ton of benefit in the interconnectedness of people. Smartphones are a huge drain on humanity requiring connection to the world 24/7, but also are an incredible tool for many other applications. And LLM’s are just the beginning (obviously not the beginning, but at a mass scale) and I think will evolve and combine with other AI tech and find its way just like all the other tech before it.

                Change is hard and capitalism is depressing, but there’s still a real human world out there full of feelings and opinions. Nothing is gonna stop that. It may shape it, but that has always been the case.