Yeah, people are dumb. One of the reasons it’s prescribed is because it’s harder to abuse. According to my psychiatrist when it came out, it’s bonded to a lipid that has to be stripped off by stomach acid to work.
No matter how many times I told my friends they were wasting time and money, they swore it got them higher.
The lysine is cleaved from the prodrug in the bloodstream to release d-amph, not in the stomach. While I haven’t tried it (and wouldn’t recommend it), you should be able to get high from insufflation just fine, but the release curve will be much slower than if you were railing pure speed.
Your friends weren’t talking out of their asses completely. Your psychiatrist isn’t talking out of their ass either, but they’re conflating the mechanism of action that Vyvanse uses with a mechanism used by many other prodrugs, which is first-pass metabolism.
You’re thinking of Strattera (which is worse for adhd than stimulants). Basically every other adhd medication is a stimulant and while they can be formulated in ways that are better for medication than fun it’s usually by making them release slowly and consistently resulting in a milder effect for a longer time. That said, doing that was what perdue pharma said made oxycontin not addictive.
Yeah strattera is trash. Shit made me feel weird. I had to stop taking it after a week because, aside from the depersonalization and body load, it also.made my heart feel like it was going to self destruct
Yeah I slept through a family vacation as a kid. And it should be noted that we both had adverse reactions. While I’d normally recommend people start with a stimulant, they’ve become really hard to consistently get lately to the point that I’m recommending my wife start with it.
I think they just said it to sell it. I knew people in recovery who would have doctors prescribe it to them and tell them it was safe and non-addictive.
Honestly, the people I knew that liked other opiates usually said they hated tramadol. But I also knew a handful of folks that never got into other opiates and really liked abusing tramadol.
Wtf, are people snorting Vyvanse? I thought its whole purpose was that it worked for ADHD and was not recreationally fun.
They didn’t lie to me, did they?!
I never snorted it and I didn’t look for it for fun but if I was out of crystal meth it made me feel better and pretty good.
I’m in recovery now thankfully, don’t do meth kids. Unless you like turning all your bad feelings into good feelings.
Keep it up! Especially when it sucks!
Yeah, people are dumb. One of the reasons it’s prescribed is because it’s harder to abuse. According to my psychiatrist when it came out, it’s bonded to a lipid that has to be stripped off by stomach acid to work.
No matter how many times I told my friends they were wasting time and money, they swore it got them higher.
It’s bonded to an amino acid, lysine.
The lysine is cleaved from the prodrug in the bloodstream to release d-amph, not in the stomach. While I haven’t tried it (and wouldn’t recommend it), you should be able to get high from insufflation just fine, but the release curve will be much slower than if you were railing pure speed.
Your friends weren’t talking out of their asses completely. Your psychiatrist isn’t talking out of their ass either, but they’re conflating the mechanism of action that Vyvanse uses with a mechanism used by many other prodrugs, which is first-pass metabolism.
It has been nearly 20 years since I had the convo with my doc, so I definitely could be misremembering parts of it.
You’re thinking of Strattera (which is worse for adhd than stimulants). Basically every other adhd medication is a stimulant and while they can be formulated in ways that are better for medication than fun it’s usually by making them release slowly and consistently resulting in a milder effect for a longer time. That said, doing that was what perdue pharma said made oxycontin not addictive.
Yeah strattera is trash. Shit made me feel weird. I had to stop taking it after a week because, aside from the depersonalization and body load, it also.made my heart feel like it was going to self destruct
Yeah I slept through a family vacation as a kid. And it should be noted that we both had adverse reactions. While I’d normally recommend people start with a stimulant, they’ve become really hard to consistently get lately to the point that I’m recommending my wife start with it.
Ah, the ol’ time release trick.
Not quite the same, but they used to tell us Tramadol wasn’t habit forming either.
Why, because street users would fuck up titration and kill themselves‽ That shit is the least I’ve ever minded hives.
I think they just said it to sell it. I knew people in recovery who would have doctors prescribe it to them and tell them it was safe and non-addictive.
Honestly, the people I knew that liked other opiates usually said they hated tramadol. But I also knew a handful of folks that never got into other opiates and really liked abusing tramadol.