• MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca
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    2 days ago

    as now everyone knows democrats won’t enforce the law against them, call them out on stuff, put forth a popular alternative.

    What do you actually think the Democrats are able to do right now?

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      I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not, but do what is an opposition party is supposed to do? If Republicans love to be a thorn on the side despite being the minority in government before, by obstructionism, why can’t Democrats do the same despite having the minority?

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        The only major thing Republicans have been able to do is win minor concessions by threatening to effectively nuke the country. Democrats are not willing to hold the country hostage in the same manner because there are incredible consequences if the bluff is called. (A prolonged government shutdown stops poor people from eating, sick people from getting medical treatment etc. A refusal to lift the debt ceiling would place America in crippling debt and throw the world into a major financial crisis.)

        During Biden’s term, Republicans looked much stronger because the Supreme court had 6 Conservatives and the Democrats only had 50 seats in the Senate which included Manchin and Sinema. The Democrats have none of that leverage this time.

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          Democrats are trading long term consequences for short term ones. Prolonged government shut down could do those you mentioned, but since Lemmy love the trolley problem so much, need I remind that those are short term pains compared to enabling fascism to take over later down the line? Because when have fascists ever let go of power? And I’m talking about the state of the US government now, not during Biden’s term. Democrats caving in in the previous shutdown doesn’t even look genuine. The Democratic politicians who voted with Republicans just so happened that their terms won’t be up soon, or are about to retire anyway.

          Just look at other countries and the opposition parties do their job as opposition, namely in South Korea and Brazil. They are punishing insurrectionists who tried to subvert democracy. I find that Americans are sedated and still wondering if they are in fascism or not.

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      A hell of a lot more than sit on their hands and ask for more donations to get people to pay them to maybe consider not sitting on their hands. They do, in fact, still hold political office and power, they could fucking use it for anything other than lining their own pockets as crisis profiteers, which is nigh the only fucking thing I see 99% of them doing.

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        They hold none of the three branches.

        They can whine and protest, which they’ve been doing. Literally what else do you expect besides them to hold the country hostage via the debt ceiling or shutdown? (And, I might point out the Dems are in fact threatening a shutdown unless changes are made to ICE.)

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          They could be introducing and proposing bills, they could be voting against things rather than falling in line, they could do whatever they could to obstruct and slow things, instead they’re all just playing respectability politics and campaigning, don’t act like these capitalist fucks are looking out for anyone other than themselves. I want a little less conversation and a little more action.

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            Democrats have voted against almost every significant bill so far.

            What would proposing bills do?

            They’ve been doing the obstruction. You’ve forgotten Hakeem Jefferies’ record setting filibuster because it doesn’t make a lick of difference; “oh yay, the bill was stalled for two days! Mighty victory!”

            The reality is that the Democrats are essentially powerless until the midterms and unfortunately, reality doesn’t change because you wish it were otherwise.