(Gajim was gnomed since June actually, Void Linux repos didn’t update to the new iteraction until a few days ago though so I wasn’t aware.)
Gajim was the best XMPP client for desktops, with a nice UI and all the features I’d ever need in a messenger (YMMV).
So of course it should have been turned upside-down with a UI redesign that removes compatibility with GTK3 themes while also looking extremely out of place on my system. Modern GUI design suck SO MUCH.
Point the devs to libadapta.
Gajim updated and now my chat text size is too small but the other text is fine so if I increase the font size everything else gets too big. Fucking a, I just want a working desktop XMPP client…
I’m not familiar with this app, but what do you mean “gnomed”? Do you mean the UI started using Gtk4 and Adwaita components?
Gtk3 is considered legacy now, so most apps that use Gtk will be transitioning to Gtk4 (and Adwaita) at some point. Gtk3 is starting to look a bit outdated in modern DEs.
Yeah that’s exactly it.
Gtk3 is considered legacy now
Cinnamon and Xfce still exist though. It’s not like gtk3 is suddenly out of use.
Libadwaita should only be used for Apps designed for Gnome So idk if the xmpp client your using is designed for all des or gnome
Before the June update Gajim wasn’t related to GNOME at all and worked perfectly fine on my Xfce desktop. The update fully switched to GTK4 + libadwaita, and they also redesigned their website to look exactly like GNOME’s.
I suppose they changed their design direction…
and they also redesigned their website to look exactly like GNOME’s
Oh. I thought this was just another case of the consequences of the GNOME-ization of GTK but that… probably they want to became part of GNOME.
oh, so maybe they want to be part of Gnome’s app ecosystem i think?
it straight up uses more memory than discord too
desktop linux is getting ruined by this shit istg
So this is a “don’t move my cheese” post?
I understand the need the vent from time to time, but most people have/create blogs for such things. Maybe it’s just time to look for another xmpp client.
No, a lot of previously good tools got entirely unusable (like, buttons/tabs not working) outside Gnome with the move to gtk4. Granted, most of them Gnome tools. While not-Gnome tools generally work, but look out of place by not folllowing any user settings.
And also the brain-worm of “simplified” settings menu.
Do you not think rants belong here? What about linking to a rant on a blog?
There aren’t really any good clients for XMPP unfortunately. I’m just moving away to Matrix (ironically the one I avoided because it didn’t have good clients when I looked into IMs).
Movim is a very full featured client that supports group voice and video calls with screensharing, and it’s about to get discord-like spaces in a week or two.
Otherwise there’s Dino and Dinox.
I’ll look into Movim, thanks!
Dino is good.
This sounds like you have beef with the developer.
What’s this post about?
I don’t, they are free to change their software any way they want to, and I’m free to not like the changes they’ve made.
Try taking an old git version and applying only the patches you need.
build your xmpp client with gtk4 without libadwaita, maybe something cool comes out









