A jury has found Elon Musk liable for misleading investors by deliberately driving down Twitter’s stock price in the tumultuous months leading up to his 2022 acquisition of the social media company for $44 billion. But it absolved him of some fraud allegations, finding that he did not “scheme” to mislead investors.

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    16 hours ago

    If the punishment is a fine, it’s only illegal for poor people.

    The only war is class war.

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      15 hours ago

      Considering he’s made $400B since acquiring Twitter, this was just a minor cost of doing business.

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        I could change the world for the better with this sum. Hell, even with the fee. Oh well, I’m sure it’s best that he has that money 🙄🤮.

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        Considering he’s made $400B since acquiring Twitter…

        Serious question: How?

        AFAIK, Twitter wasn’t terribly profitable before they sold to Musk. Then after he purchased it, the enshittification accelerated.

        How on earth does this result in $400 Billions in profit?!?

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          He made $400B, not Twitter. That’s almost entirely from Tesla and other ventures, not Twitter.

          Last I’ve been able to find Twitter was valued at $33B when xAI bought it. But that was clearly an overvalued sale. Just look at the valuation over time.

          And that’s just raw valuation which is easily manipulated, not revenue or profit, which can be easily manipulated.

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          It’s not real money, and Musk isn’t the richest person in truth, not by a long shot. This is theoretical money based on overpriced companies that are propped up by what I suspect are some rather shady practices and investors using it as a casino stock.

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            Actually worst than imaginable if you delve deep the psychology of the rich is akin to tumour development. Never forget these rich fuckheads would bet over your misery like a game.

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            The money doesn’t have to be real for Elon to be able to use his stock as collateral for billion dollar loans. So he in fact has real money, that banks gave him, and that he will never pay back.

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                It will only restrict his ability to get new loans, and make his collaterals worthless. But he probably spent most of the money they gave him, and like with twitter, he shifted the assets around in his network of companies, like a thimblerigger.

                But that’s kind of like saying that inflation will make the rich poor, which is also not true.

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                  When stocks crash, his loans that are backed by those stocks get margin called, and he will have to sell other stock. If the government didn’t bail him out, and they will so this is academic, although he will have to pay them bribes secretly obviously that goes without saying, he would see a cascading effect from a recession because his companies are all so overpriced.

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          Some are, but they often have maximum caps.

          So for a UK speeding fine he’d get a £1000, but if it’s wasn’t capped it would be somewhere in the region of 340 million.

          Your Speeding Offence Details

          Speed Limit: 30 mph Recorded Speed: 35 mph Excess Speed: 5 mph Offence Band: A Road Type: Standard Road What This Means For You

          Your offence falls into Band A, which carries a fine of 50% of your weekly income. Based on your weekly income of £640,000,000, your calculated fine is £320,000,000. This has been capped at the maximum of £1000 for standard road offences.

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            Finland has similar thing, but it is not capped. There’s a ton of 100 000+€ fines given around here. Obviously with Musk it would be a bit different, since the fine is based on actual income, not some imaginary monopoly money on the stock market.

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            Disclaimer: I know you’re probably only trolling, but I’ll answer anyway:

            …not assessed in a way to be of sufficient size to not just be considered a cost of doing business. In other words, pricey enough to take away the incentive to not only take away the profit but to also deal a significant blow to the wealth of the richest person on earth.

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              Just because they’re currently assessed that way doesn’t mean they can’t be assessed a different way…