God, there is no pleasing this fucking community. Some of you are really insufferable.
There are no public VPNs you can “trust” and saying anything else is an attempt at tricking people.
Not all free VPNs are “bad.” It’s VPNs that make money off the users’ data that are bad.
For example, Proton sells VPN use but they also let you use it for free, albeit with limitations. There’s nothing wrong with the free product that isn’t also wrong with the paid one — some people don’t like Proton for a few reasons, and those reasons are valid either way.
Mozilla is doing the same thing, or at least the VPN business model is the same.
I’m not saying trust them blindly, I’m saying look into it and be open to being wrong and learning.
Didnt say anything about “bad” just that they arent trustworthy.
I’m not saying trust them blindly, I’m saying look into it and be open to being wrong and learning.
There is no way to look into it, thats the issue. No VPNs can be trusted, at all, ever. You can either blindly trust them or not trust them, because you can never actually know what they do on their end.
They seem very confused. They say it’s available for everyone with one click and they also say it’s rolling out gradually.
If you’re a technical user and you don’t have it, does that mean they’re testing it on the rubes first? If so, what does that say about their intentions?
I see
Turn it on in Firefox with a single click.
but that doesn’t say it’s available to everyone?
Lots of text basically saying they simply give users 50 gb free use per month of their Mozilla VPN that you can also pay for: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/vpn/
Anybody know if its any good?
Your interpretation is wrong in a subtle way: this is 50 GB free of a “VPN” (seems more like a proxy) on
Mozilla’sFastly’s infra, whereas Mozilla VPN uses Mullvad’s infra (and is a real VPN).Totally missed that, thanks for pointing out
From the organisation who stopped making a good browser and instead made a bloated slop machine.
You can turn the ai off with a click. That’s hardly bloated. Not that it’s good it’s there at all, but still.
Yeah, it’s “only” a click and it’s “only” one thing (that still sits on your computer, unwanted and unneeded and a waste of Mozilla’s development and upkeep resources).
Only AI tab groups and an AI sidebar…
…and an AI search engine…
…and ads disguised as news…
…and ads disguised as frequently visited sites…
…and sponsored weather…
…and ads in the URL bar…
…and “privacy preserving advertisement data collection”…
…and a freaking built-in VPN a la Opera.
Tell me, when will you allow us to start calling it bloat?
I don’t have any of that, but ok
What do you use instead of Firefox then?
I just use Firefox, friend. Just Firefox.
Then you had to “only” fix every single one of those things across every profile and computer you’ve used it on.
So at what point does that become more than “hardly” bloat to you? Or do you consider Edge and Brave to be in the same category of hardly bloated?
Librewolf on PC IronFox on mobile.
No thanks ,prefer ironfox, waterfox and librewolf
You use three different browsers?
Speaking of bloat 😅️
Five , use also vanadium ,searX
I’ve only tried Librewolf, thanks for the recs
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The browser is still good you just have to switch to a decent fork lol
Already have
