Never heard of it before, but it seems to have been a major source for inspiration of Judaism, and from that of course Christianity and Islam.
So since Zoroastrianism seems to have been the original monotheistic faith of the 4, it makes sense that the copies of the original are the fake ones. Except of course they are all fake, and none of them make the least bit of sense.
Way way better, no oppression requirements and no discrimination of minorities or foreigners.
I think the Norse gods are probably among the least bad. And that’s the reason the Scandinavian countries were the last among European countries to be Christened.
It is also notable that Christianity did not manage to change the name of winter solstice holiday to Christmas or something similar, Christianity is notable for taking over local traditional holidays, and rename them so they become completely absorbed as Christian holidays.
But Scandinavian countries still call Christmas “Jul”, so their is a strong trace of the original tradition.
Luckily Scandinavian countries are also the first to abandon Christianity, and are among the least religious countries in the world.
Yule or jól was new year for the Vikings. First day of Yule was the first day of the new year.
This was probably the biggest holiday for the Vikings, and celebration started the evening before, just like we start celebrating New Years Eve in the evening before new year today.
In Scandinavian countries Jul is still celebrated December 24 as “Jule aften” (Christmas evening).
The Vikings celebrated with food and mead, and it was a 3 week “holiday”.
In 1575 new year celebrations were finally moved to December 30, and the Christian church tried to rename Jul to “Kristmesse” similar to Christmas for English speaking countries.
Today Jul is still a mix of the old traditions and the celebration of the fable of the birth of Christ.
We have many traditions that include “nisser” (pixies) and children’s songs about them. “Nisser” are a more popular imagery of Christmas than anything Christian.
So yule was not religious, it was a new years celebration.
And zoroastrianism split off/evolved from the old proto-Avestan traditions, which themselves evolved alongside/from an ancient Indo-iranian root, of which Hinduism is the only other surviving branch.
Idk, the “all is one” brand of eastern religions seems to be pretty distinct from the hierarchical “God is like a king so having one is natural” western ones.
I’d love to know what the most isolated religion is, the one that has the fewest common branches or cousins with any other Extant religions. It’s probably something like those handful of languages which only have a handful of people alive who still speak them.
it makes sense that the copies of the original are the fake ones.
Maybe that makes the most sense to you, but if that was bulletproof logic then Islam, Buddhism and Sikhism wouldn’t even exist, since they all directly reference older faiths which they “improve upon.”
To put it more clearly - their followers wouldn’t follow a “re-hash” religion if they believed in the rule of O.G.
But if there’s a ‘true way’ in religion at all, then who’s to say the God wouldn’t wait until later on before revealing their faith? If humans have free will maybe the God waited to see how they would fare under their own judgement before delivering the message.
And on Christianity-Judaism connection
Christianity considers itself the true ‘continuation’ of the faith developed by the Hebrews, and a great deal of jews (maybe even the majority) around at the time agreed with this and got baptised.
The Jews then faced persecution for rebelling against the roman empire, and were scattered and had their religious community sabotaged (i.e writings destroyed and centre of worship destroyed).
So to compensate for this some rabbis introduced a new book, the Talmud, which basically lead the jewish faith in a divergent direction from where it was. Modern jews are almost as distinct from Historical Jews (~ 30AD or earlier), as modern christians are.
Tbh, everything flows and changes. There is no “original” that survives without major changes for millenia. People change, language changes, the meaning of words and the understanding of the fundamentals governing day-to-day life changes all the time.
Exactly, it’s like with countries as well as religions, which is why POTUS 47 claimed Iran had no history when it’s actually one of the oldest countries on Earth from most people’s POV
Never heard of it before, but it seems to have been a major source for inspiration of Judaism, and from that of course Christianity and Islam.
So since Zoroastrianism seems to have been the original monotheistic faith of the 4, it makes sense that the copies of the original are the fake ones. Except of course they are all fake, and none of them make the least bit of sense.
Heey now, die in battle and go to Valhalla!
Way way better, no oppression requirements and no discrimination of minorities or foreigners.
I think the Norse gods are probably among the least bad. And that’s the reason the Scandinavian countries were the last among European countries to be Christened.
Yeah what the f were they thinking?!
I remember wondering why when I learned about it in school.
It is also notable that Christianity did not manage to change the name of winter solstice holiday to Christmas or something similar, Christianity is notable for taking over local traditional holidays, and rename them so they become completely absorbed as Christian holidays.
But Scandinavian countries still call Christmas “Jul”, so their is a strong trace of the original tradition.
Luckily Scandinavian countries are also the first to abandon Christianity, and are among the least religious countries in the world.
Any idea what jul stood for?
Yule or jól was new year for the Vikings. First day of Yule was the first day of the new year.
This was probably the biggest holiday for the Vikings, and celebration started the evening before, just like we start celebrating New Years Eve in the evening before new year today.
In Scandinavian countries Jul is still celebrated December 24 as “Jule aften” (Christmas evening).
The Vikings celebrated with food and mead, and it was a 3 week “holiday”.
In 1575 new year celebrations were finally moved to December 30, and the Christian church tried to rename Jul to “Kristmesse” similar to Christmas for English speaking countries.
Today Jul is still a mix of the old traditions and the celebration of the fable of the birth of Christ.
We have many traditions that include “nisser” (pixies) and children’s songs about them. “Nisser” are a more popular imagery of Christmas than anything Christian.
So yule was not religious, it was a new years celebration.
And zoroastrianism split off/evolved from the old proto-Avestan traditions, which themselves evolved alongside/from an ancient Indo-iranian root, of which Hinduism is the only other surviving branch.
Ten holy hecks, all major religions are cousins.
Idk, the “all is one” brand of eastern religions seems to be pretty distinct from the hierarchical “God is like a king so having one is natural” western ones.
I’d love to know what the most isolated religion is, the one that has the fewest common branches or cousins with any other Extant religions. It’s probably something like those handful of languages which only have a handful of people alive who still speak them.
Pastafarianism?
Fuck it, why not?
Evil cousins.
Maybe that makes the most sense to you, but if that was bulletproof logic then Islam, Buddhism and Sikhism wouldn’t even exist, since they all directly reference older faiths which they “improve upon.”
To put it more clearly - their followers wouldn’t follow a “re-hash” religion if they believed in the rule of O.G.
But if there’s a ‘true way’ in religion at all, then who’s to say the God wouldn’t wait until later on before revealing their faith? If humans have free will maybe the God waited to see how they would fare under their own judgement before delivering the message.
And on Christianity-Judaism connection
Christianity considers itself the true ‘continuation’ of the faith developed by the Hebrews, and a great deal of jews (maybe even the majority) around at the time agreed with this and got baptised.
The Jews then faced persecution for rebelling against the roman empire, and were scattered and had their religious community sabotaged (i.e writings destroyed and centre of worship destroyed).
So to compensate for this some rabbis introduced a new book, the Talmud, which basically lead the jewish faith in a divergent direction from where it was. Modern jews are almost as distinct from Historical Jews (~ 30AD or earlier), as modern christians are.
Tbh, everything flows and changes. There is no “original” that survives without major changes for millenia. People change, language changes, the meaning of words and the understanding of the fundamentals governing day-to-day life changes all the time.
“Original” doesn’t exist in real life.
Tell that to Werthers.
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Exactly, it’s like with countries as well as religions, which is why POTUS 47 claimed Iran had no history when it’s actually one of the oldest countries on Earth from most people’s POV