• ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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    8 hours ago

    Bro what are you doing. Give credit where credit is due. It’s not a watermark, it’s a signature. Signatures aren’t ads. And what if people want to read more from a particular artist and you’ve just removed all trace of the original artist?

    You’re on the wrong hill here. Stop making life more difficult for yourself and everyone else. Just post the original comic.

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      7 hours ago

      OP is the most misdirected backwards shit I’ve ever heard of. They enjoy the comic but refuse to give credit to the creator. It’s so stupid it must be an April Fools, right? Right?

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    Idk. Which is more media illiterate, thinking that Rorschach was a net good, or insisting that narrative elements need to fit into a good/evil dichotomy?

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      Who is insisting that narrative elements should fit into a good/evil dichotomy here?

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        Who is insisting that narrative elements should fit into a good/evil dichotomy here?

        The interlocutor in the comic who is asking the other party in the comic to distill Rorschach role to “Good guy/ Bad guy”, then penalizing when they hesitantly give what the interlocutor has presupposed as the “wrong” answer, as they write down the point “media illiterate”.

        I mean, the comics right there. Did you look at it before replying?

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          Well, the simple question of ‘Is character x or y?’ is very different from ‘The character is either x or y, choose.’. You can easily answer ‘neither’ to the question of ‘Is character good or bad?’.

          That being said, Alan Moore himself stated Rorschach is meant to be a bad example. So if you want to make the argument that Alan Moore is media illiterate, I’m all ears — I don’t really know much about the guy because Watchmen really wasn’t that impressive to me. (I recognize that if I had read it when it was new and hadn’t inspired so many other stories that this opinion might be different.)

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              ‘Nice argument, but I’ve already depicted you as the soyjak and myself as the chad.’ energy.

              At least I can confirm my tag, saves me from needing to interact with you.

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                I mean I appreciate you participating in at least that you’re continuing to demonstrate, if not media illiteracy, actual illiteracy.

                My remix of the comic was done to demonstrate the same obtuseness of the comic, which is exactly the point I’m making. Good versus evil, and the idea that one is a right interpretation and the other is wrong, is exceptionally reductionist. And you, and I really have to say thank you for this, you playing the part of just parroting that exceptionally reductionist logic, for which, I really can’t thank you enough.

                Not only have you did we get to experience a worked example, we got to live out a meta-version of the comic itself. And we could not have done it without your media illiteracy or reductionist mindset. 10/10. No notes.

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                  My man, I need you to recognize — your remix of the comic in and of itself is reductionist. You choose non sequential comments to portray some kind of meta commentary on something you don’t even seem to fully understand.

                  Let me be clear. You are allowed to attribute whatever meaning you want to whatever story or art medium you want. That is, ultimately, the goal of any artist — to evoke something in you.

                  When the artist themselves attributes a word like ‘good’ or ‘bad’ to the description of their character, to the very essence behind their creation — you are not allowed to simply say that they are wrong.

                  You are free to create your own art where the rules are different from theirs. Where there is no truly good or bad individual, just varying shades of gray. However you look like a DBZ power scaler when you attribute complexity to a character where there is none. I’m serious, no one looks dumber than the people spending way more time than they should arguing about things that the creator is likely to just fucking forget (rip Toriyama, ILY).

                  Rorschach is meant to be a bad example. You are not meant to want to be like him. Alan Moore thinks you’re a sweaty nerd and that you should stay away from him if you admire Rorschach (I’m paraphrasing but that is more or less his statement on the matter). Media literacy should lead you to answer the question of ‘Is Rorschach good or bad?’ with neither (thus explaining a more nuanced perspective that is just headcanon) or no.

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    10 hours ago

    Uh, okay, whatever this is…

    Image doesn’t load for me, but strangely the thumbnail loads.

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      Hey, as pointed out by other people, you can directly got to the artist’s website Here to show them that people read their comics or to read more of them.

      Op is an uncultured person who repeatedly crops the artist’s name out of their comics (using ai, which doesn’t help his reputation here). I’l leave you to decide wether you find that respectable or not.

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        9 hours ago

        Ah, interesting. You get upvote, OP gets downvote.

        Boo OP, you’re stealing the works of others without giving credit 👎

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        10 hours ago

        Oof, okay, thanks for sharing a direct link OP.

        But even that didn’t wanna load, I had to bust out Tor Browser, and reset even that twice, before I could view the whole image.

        It must be a Mississippi thing, they’re being fucking stupid about what we can and can’t access online anymore 🤷

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          It looks like it’s a free image hosting service, and given that and that @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social also said that they couldn’t reach it directly, my guess is that there’s probably a number of people who upload content that violates someone’s requirements and get the host blacklisted by folks of a censorious nature.

          EDIT: @over_clox@lemmy.world and @AntiBullyRanger@ani.social: A Lemmy instance can be set up to proxy images for remote sites. This has some privacy benefits (someone can’t harvest IP addresses of Lemmy users by just submitting images and waiting to see which IP addresses load them) and also the incidental benefit of bypassing restrictions like this, as long as your Lemmy home instance is accessible on the network that is blocking the image host. The home instance I use, lemmy.today, does this, and I’m sure that there are others. You might consider setting up another account on a second home instance that does that to work around this, if it’s common for you where you are.

          https://lemmy.today/post/50406412 is this post on lemmy.today, for example.

          The link that my browser actually loads is https://lemmy.today/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FG3CVVyq2%2Fgghhhh.jpg

          The downside is that your lemmy home instance has to spend the extra bandwidth and storage space to serve the images, so it requires the admin to be able and willing to expend the server resources on it.

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        10 hours ago

        Strangely I had to use a proxy to read this.

        All the characters in Watchmen are bad guys. It’s inherently a bad society, with an even worse decision being made.

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      10 hours ago

      sometimes I have to go to the source link to see the image, the rainbow icon next to the upvote

      I think it’s a federation issue with your instance and the host of the community with some mixing of where the op is federating from. only happens to me once in awhile and usually newer posts