I know this community has seen a lot of meta posts lately and the last thing I want to do is pile on or draw the eye of Sauron our new mod team, but Dohpaz mentioned the community banding together to include a common identifier in post titles (context) and I think the idea has enough merit to surface as a top level discussion.
I’m not looking to make rule 5 so cumbersome that the ordinary person needs a doctorate in regular expressions to figure out how to name their post (or create a bunch of extra work for the mods), but I do think there’d be genuine benefit in encouraging folks to put the comic titles or creators in their post title.
First and foremost, this makes attribution a priority and while I recognize that there’s always going to be someone just starting out or the odd comic who’s author has been lost or the Internet, I believe in an era of questionable information, the best thing we can do is cite our sources.
From the perspective of accessibility, it guarantees that anyone who can’t see the post thumbnail (be it due to vision or just one of myriad of different front ends, clients, and formats that one might use to access Lemmy) can have the same heads up about what a post might contain as someone who can see stick figures and assume that it’s probably XKCD.
Similarly, front loading attribution helps address the “what do we do about problematic artists?” discussion. I will admit that it is a compromise, but in a world of imperfect people and imperfect solutions, it strikes me as the sort of compromise where everyone can walk away from the table feeling like they got some of what they wanted. To those that value freedom of information and expression, comics are still available and nobody is claiming a moral high ground on what can and can’t be posted. To those that would rather not see/ engage with content from problematic authors, comics are clearly labeled and can be more easily be ignored, down voted, or filtered out (if your client supports it). I’m not sure if Lemmy has a limit on pinned posts, but maybe the mods could pin an artist review mega thread where we could keep a community discussion of “in case you’re one of today’s unlucky 10000, this artist frequently posts hateful comments”.
Finally, for purely practical (and admittedly somewhat selfish) reasons, it would make it much easier to search for posts if one sought to find a specific comic or discussion in the community history. (Plus I think it might be neat to open the door from some dataisbeautiful visualizations on the popularity of the comics that get posted here).
I’d like to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, here, and say I don’t like this suggestion. I didn’t suggest taking down Jago’s comics because I don’t want to see them. I already know Jago is a transphobe and I hate him. My hatred gives Me a strong (but not perfect) immunity to his propaganda. So I’m not worried about Me. I’m worried about other people who don’t know he’s a transphobe. If they become a fan of his because of his nice comics, and only then see his transphobic comics, they might be tempted to make excuses for the transphobic ones, and then they’re going around thinking transphobia is okay.
I want to deplatform Jago so that nobody is tempted to excuse transphobia. So that nobody sees his transphobic messages and gets influenced by them.
The majority of his content posted here is cringe and misogynistic, in that order, but yes I’ve also seen the trans/queer phobia content. You are not wrong.
I would just ban it on the grounds that the sheer amount of downvotes proves the majority of the community deem the content subpar, so why leave the trash to spoil the rest of the otherwise nicely curated gallery? We already have rule 2 which says content should be enjoyable by most. The user posting those is clearly a troll and a repeat offender at that.
I agree. It is a core function of moderation to be able to take a definitive stand and say “We won’t platform hate speech or those whose body of work is intractably entwined with hate”.
The other day, I had a reason to want to search for posts of a specific comic that I suspected had been removed, and not having the comic name in the post title made it impossible because the images themselves aren’t included in the modlog. So yes, I support this suggestion.
Choosing the formats and tags so we are all on the same page would be nice but I don’t think it should be required.
I’m not 100% seeing how this could be implemented. I get the concept though. You speak of tags, however tagging systems are very inconsistent across the fediverse and apps used .
I don’t have anything against the idea, but only as long as this doesn’t become in itself reason for banning content. Optional yes, compulsory no.
Agreed, there have been some comics that I just don’t enjoy, but the user also posts other stuff that I do like so I don’t want to block them. I don’t see any downside to making filtering & searching easier. I’m not weighing in on the deplatforming specific artists discussion, but for purely functional purposes tags make a lot of sense.
Personally I’ve been using c!nonpoliticalcomics formatting of “[Comic series or artist] comic title” for a long time now.
Although I don’t care about the artist, I post what I want / whatever I find because I’m bored.
Fine by me.
