LINUS, GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!
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I wield Arch btw
It’s dangerous to go rolling. Take this
Nix os snapshots
That’s just save scumming, which is another form of cheating!
Great, now you have crusaders.
nixos generations have saved my ass way more than I’m willing to admit.
So far they only messed me up. I was ricing my grub, messed up, and put systemd boot alongside grub boot. It panicked and put new generations on systemd boot, and grub as bootloader. This lead me into booting back into an older generation instead of the latest one
I do like having them tho. Just never encountered a problem warranting a revert (and I hope I won’t)
Now stand in awe of my wild, wild rolling!
Rolling release?
You mean sysupdate cd /sys/src && mk install
I nearly died. They say I must journey into the AUR realm for legacy GPU drivers, and I would have fallen into the text-only abyss had I updated days later (assuming I had not heard the news). My internet is too slow for regular updates. Continue onwards without me, I’ll just rest here at this long-outdated version.
Generally I don’t think rolling release is the issue itself (I have been using it for years), but it seems like every packaging/updating scheme out there sucks for one reason or another. Every time something looks like it has the answer, there is something else that works contrary to what is expected/desired.
Rolling is not for the faint of heart; hell openSUSE Tumbleweed is certainly an update everyday (though they have fairly stable pushes). I really love Solus because they have a designated day of the week when they update and perform tests before pushing their updates out!
Tumble me weeds hasn’t borked my main rigs or ‘family & friends’ puters in like 5 years. So overall I had less work compared to updating all them Debians once or twice in the same period.
(Oh, no wait, I did have one smol issue with a KDE widget or something like that.)
Also every rolling-release is a semi-rolling-release if you update once weekly or even monthly.
I was using tumbleweed last fall and there was an update that prevented my desktop from remembering where to put my icons for ~6 weeks. Not a huge issue, but interesting that you had none.
I’m on Tumbleweed for years with no major issues. I messed it up couple times myself (switching to Wayland and also pipewire among others) but there’s Snapper to save my ass. To see the update bork the system? Happened once I believe. Also solved by snapper and waiting a week.
Sure, updates are available almost daily, but they’re not forced. I update when I have time/will. Sometimes twice a week sometimes after months. Still solid.
Yeah, openSUSE Tumbleweed is a pretty solid distro…And really flexible, customizable in the way that approaches Arch without all the headaches that can come with knowing Arch. I don’t even mind the daily updates, it’s just something that people should be aware of. Particularly if they are compelled to be up to date (like myself). There is only a few problems that I’ve had and most of them were because of me. One was because SELinux was being a bastard (but it could be fixed with two commands). Hell, updating using Zypper is probably the fastest way to get them done, I don’t use GNOME software, as it can get irritating to update NVIDIA drivers (as it will ignore my agreeing to the licenses).
I like that YaST Software is a solid way of installing packages and software without much fuss.
I miss pmjv
Did something happen?
SDF’s lemmy server ran out of hard drive space and we are waiting on the new ones.
I’ve never had any problems with updates corrupting my system. I use Mint, by the way.
On one of our machines, a couple of times updates have “de-Mintified” Xfce, making it like stock Xfce & removing things like Whisker Menu.
Managed to fix it once, but still de-Mintified (but only on the main user account, not the admin account 🤨) this time. Might have to give up on Mint Xfce.
Me to but i need to install somethings manualy because apt was holding old versions.
So use an external PM like flatpak or nix
I’ve been using Debian SID for couple years now. Updates come every couple hours. Other than some held-back packaged from time to time I had 0 issues.
BTW, everyone knows that SID (Still In Development) is named after Sid Philips from Toy Story, right?
They’re actually all named for Toy Story characters
Yes they are but SID is the funniest one :)
