I’m kind of sad that I can’t look at the global feed on Mastodon Social anymore. If I’m not already following others, I don’t really know what I can do on there but see some news links and brooding angsty posts from mostly the same handful of already popular users in Trending.
Browsing the global feed kind of felt like this.
I use to have the global feed just opened and it was so fast half the time it would crash and I’d have to restart the page. Loved it though.
God even here on Lemmy.
I share links, relevant links, in comments.
They just go on, people say thanks.
I share some links on Reddit, and Automod deletes it as “spam”. Also because Reddit seems to hate out going links, which is unexpected given what it is.
I like the old days when I used the landline telephone mounted on the wall. I never once worried about whether or not someone liked my conversation after I hung up.
I rate your casual indifference to societal pressure a 4.5 stars out of 5!
I rate your rating a 3.9 out of 5.
Perfect job scoring ops score, I give it a 5 out of 7
Decent scoring there and a bold move to change the scale, I give it a 6
The last thing I posted to facebook was included a link to my own website, and it got buried into oblivion. It was about 5% of the usual response. I suspected the exact same thing.
This happened to me recently. I posted a link to my Mastodon profile on Facebook to let followers know that I don’t intend to keep using Facebook for music, and it got a total engagement of 2 viewers.
As a test, I posted a dumb meme. ~10k engagement. Facebook intentionally lowers visibility of outside links.
The usual trick is to post an image along with “link in the comments”.
People actually use threads?
I assumed everyone had moved on to mastodon/bluesky or crawled back to xitter.
I tried all three when leaving Twitter and dropped Threads within days because its so bad.
BSky and Masto are decent though.
Well I used to use Reddit but then they ip banned me for a stupid fuck up on my part (using a VPN) but now I have decided their advertisers don’t get my eyeballs to read their shit. (Still pissed about it a week later)
My wife uses threads because aaron parnas uses it… and that’s where she gets most of her political news.
So it’s catch 22 there for me. She’s on threads but getting actual news. So… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People are still using twitter, so a lot of them are extremely conservative in their internet habits (and probably other ways as well).
I can understand twitter, it’s years of inertia, but threads was the next big thing for all of a week.
Or don’t use either. Problem solved.
This guy is a political influencer, of course he will measure Mastodon’s worth based on engagement metrics.
Seriously, I was about to say that’s not a good reason to use Mastodon at all…
He’s not comparing the 2 platforms, he is pointing out a flaw in one of them. His message is not “i prefer mastadon for reason x” but “i dislike threads for reason y”.
The flaw is that this content is getting less engagement on Twitter. Chasing engagement is how we got into horrible state of social media we are in now. If something is worth doing then it’ll be worth doing regardless of amount of likes you get.
This… Is the wisest comment I’ve read in some time. Even though we all know this, it rarely gets said enough.
look i’ll tell you what i dislike about social media but you’ve gotta give me a like and a subscribe first
Isn’t the entire point of social media to interact with other people? I.e. engagement. Why even bother posting on social media if that’s not what you’re looking for?
When I talk to other people normally I don’t really consider if what I’m doing is going to make them like, save or subscribe to my posts, therefore I don’t need to measure it. More social person might but that’s still an unhealthy amount of reliance on external validation.
I think the flaw is intentionally limited visibility by meta, which they are using engagement to track. Considering what they are trying to point out, what other metric do you think they should be using?
You see this as Meta boosting wrong things. I see this as a problem with algorithmic timelines and boosting things in general. If someone is interested in a particular subject they should seek out sources of information on that topic and follow them, but by then you don’t care that wrong things are boosted, or that people like, dislike or are disinterested too much.
I do not.
I see it as meta intentionally lowering visibility, not as boosting other things. The root problem of that being algorithmic timelines rather than an actual timeline.
Which this post also points out (indirectly).
Again, what metric would you suggest to use to demonstrate this?
Isn’t adjusting weights of what’s being shown effectively the same as boosting?
I’m not really interested in any debate around semantics, to me the answer is no, applying a -1 to entry a is not the same as a +1 to entry z, but its also completely irrelevant to the question.
Again, what metric would you suggest to use to demonstrate this?
I dunno. I agree that the way engagement is used is often toxic, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t useful. If your job is creating content, then its useful to know how well that content is being received by your community. Hell, without measuring interaction in some way you wouldn’t even know if you had a community.
I don’t think social media should be used for people doing their jobs, that’s what RSS is for. I’m on social media to talk to people, not to be sold things.
Its a communication platform and these people are just communicating. Part of good communication is watching who is actually listening. That’s all this is.
Let’s measure that by taking a look at a number of meaningful responses and discussions this has generated then? Likes and boosts don’t even mean that the person doing it read those posts.
If something is worth doing then it’ll be worth doing regardless of amount of likes you get.
I agree 100%
Exactly! Modlogs are incredible!
You give me a screenshot of the text instead of the text? You get downvote from me.
You give me a link to the YouTube without any text summary? You get downvote from me.
That’s how it work.Link to the Mastodon post in question: https://mastodon.social/@randahl/116412909768305794
Meanwhile Mastodon burying posts from poster without a massive follower base:
How does Mastodon bury posts when you are your algorithm?
Mastodon shows your post to your followers. It also shows up in your instances main feed and under the included hashtags.
After getting banned from the Mastodon.social, the primary public instance by Mastodon developers, for equating the genocide in Gaza to Israeli government acting like Nazis… Because a user on a pro-israeli & pro-genocide federated instance claimed it was anti-semitic, all I have to say is people on Mastodon… You’re using a platform developed & primarily ran by pro-genocide Nazis.
a platform developed & primarily ran by pro-genocide Nazis.
And you made this conclusion because you were banned by a moderator? That’s not a very deep analysis.
No I made that conclusion because the instance is ran by the same organization created by the Mastodon development team. Also it wasn’t a single moderator who made a decision. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the platform developed & primarily ran by pro-genocide Nazis. May it help you sleep at night.
