[a sign reads FEMINIST CONFERENCE next to a closed door, a blue character shrugs and says…]
I don’t care
[next to the same door, the sign now says RESTRICTED FEMINIST CONFERENCE WOMEN ONLY, there are now four blue characters desperately banging on the door, one is reduced to tears on the floor, they are shouting]
DISCRIMINATION
SO UNFAIR!!!
LET US IINN!!
MISANDRY
I just want to feel good about being a man for one day.
Who’s stopping you?
I feel good about being a man.
If the existence of women only spaces is enough to make you feel bad about being a man, it seems what you’re actually feeling bad about is not having total access to everything and control over everyone. That’s a different issue, and is solved through therapy.
It’s Because every day I am hearing about how awful men are. We can’t even have our own safe spaces because we can’t be trusted. I am constantly being told about how much dumber and more dangerous we are then women. Hell, you even made assumptions of me being some incel freak
Society is full of safe spaces for men.
If you don’t want people to assume you’re an incel, don’t act like one.
Got an example that has not been over run with alt right dipshits?
Men’s safe spaces are the default.
Taking some examples from my personal life : most gyms, many sports clubs, most gaming communities, barbershops, men’s addiction recovery groups, are places where men can feel very comfortable being themselves and taking all the space without little to no pushback. Some have alt right dipshits, some don’t. Find the right ones.
This comment thread is a prime example. Looking at the scores it’s implied that I should bow down to the needs of entitled men instead of having them work on themselves and curb their unhealthy need to have total control of everything everywhere. That’s what a male safe space looks like, so add Lemmy comment sections to the list above. Might feel hard to read, but I’m not one of those people who will pat you on the back just for existing. Being mad at the existence of women’s only spaces instead of looking for spaces that would fit you is unhealthy behavior. Other people are allowed to exist outside of your control. Work on yourself. If you can’t do it alone, try therapy. It worked for me.
All those places are expected to accept women or become alt right shit holes. I am not even against women only spaces. I just wish we can have liberal men’s places.
And no, I can’t afford therapy
Then build something instead of looking for people to blame.
That easy, huh?
Have you ever been sexually harassed at work or school?
I have actually.
What do you think the numbers look like for girls being sexually harassed in school versus boys being sexually harassers in school? I know what the numbers have looked like in my classroom. I’ve seen boys get together in GROUPS, to sexually harass individual girls. To the point the girls had to change schools. Deep fake AI porn.
There is one gender that this disproportionately affects, but y’all are children who seem to think that someone else’s pain being recognized is an attack on you.
You fucking realize in the US that abortion is illegal and women are dying? That the president is a rapist, who bragged about raping women, and appointed other rapists? That shit like the SAVE act is deliberately engineered to deny women the right to vote?
And I guess that is my fault?
Honestly, fuck you by the way. Shit like this is why I did not even want to mention what happened to me because I knew people like would do this.
Have a squizz for anything that mentions mental health. It’s like kryptonite to dipshits.
Not really, they do bring it up. Mostly it’s a lie but it’s more then ehat you get from most leftist spaces.
https://usmenssheds.org/
I feel like I can’t even trust that not to be some hidden nazi shit.
Did you see the thing just last week where there was a massive online “rape school”? Where millions of men were online sharing videos of their drugged spouses and girlfriends?
Men are afraid that women won’t like them. Women are afraid that men will kill or rape them.
How do people not understand how patently ludicrous this line of thinking is?
Why are men unable to put aside their emotions anyone someone points out that lots and lots of men do fucked up things, and are systematically supported?
You hear some men, and because you think emotionally, you hear “all men.”
Rapist in my state almost killed three teenage girls. He got court ordered therapy and community service.
Tulsa’s DA was just complaining about mandatory minimums for rapists.
And are we fucking forgetting that for 99% of human history, and still in most of the world, women didn’t get to learn to read? Go to school? Got married off as children?
Marital rape wasn’t illegal in every US state until 1993.
Projection. I did nothing more than simply point out an obvious logical fallacy.
Lots and lots of women do fucked up things, too. If someone reacted to a story about a woman throwing her newborn baby into a dumpster with “geez, what is wrong with women?” you would get, justifiably, offended at the generalization.
There’s no need for a double standard, one standard will do just fine.
That doesn’t look like ‘systematic support’ to me.
More projection, especially considering you’ve dived headfirst into “all men” yourself just above.
Meanwhile, I couldn’t even get charges pressed against my female rapist.
Your empathy gap is showing.
I like how first you accuse me of emotionally extrapolating “some men” to “all men”, and then you literally do just that, using individual cases of men doing shitty things as argument against my saying not to generalize men.
You don’t even realize how blatantly you’re exposing yourself.
Even though women rape men just as often as men rape women (it just doesn’t seem so because of successful lobbying to have unwanted female on male sexual contact labeled with a term other than “rape” so that it wouldn’t be included in “rape statistics”), it still is effectively legal for women to do so. See how long it takes you to find a woman who was convicted for raping a man.
A woman can molest a male child, get herself pregnant, wait until he’s of age, and then successfully sue him for back child support. Good luck finding a case of a man legally winning child support from the girl he molested.
I wonder what Nick Olivas would have to say about that “systematic support” that you claim favors males so heavily.
Can you give me individual numbers of those incidents versus incidents of violent rape, domestic violence, and statutory rape?
Yes. Bad people exist everywhere.
On the whole, the system is set up to help bad men. There is systemic oppression of women. The fact that the US elected a man who went on tape proudly described sexually assaulting women indicates this. The fact that every woman in my immediate line was teenager impregnated by an adult man. The fact every teenage girl is taught to how to put the keys between her knuckles as she walks somewhere late, the way that packs of adolescent boys or “men in a car” have been a signal of instant threat to all women ever.
I got dog whistled as a teen. I dressed about as strange as I could be I can still go find a Facebook message of relative who confessed things to me. It’s just universal if you grow up female.
Which gender is in prison for violent crimes? What are the leading causes of deaths for pregnant women?
Only the number given was visitors who went to the site as a while which was just a regular porn site. The people who actually had anything with the ‘academy’ was a thousand.
Not that itnmatters to you I am guessing
How many people are jerking to those videos on motherless right now?
When was the last time several thousand women organized groups to discuss raping men?
Oh we did worse we got a whole comm on piefed where if a cismale comments as a cismale they get asked nicely to stop posting because it’s a comm for enbys, cis and transwoman to speak
I was explicitly denied a job because I’m a trans guy and that’s kinda common man. Im sorry there’s a couple of Internet forums you can’t post too, I wouldn’t have been able to get a bank account 50 years ago.
Pretty much 99.9 of women through most of human history, and a good chunk today, were effectively property. Occasionally times a bit better - right to divorce, consent to marriage, property rights, inheritance, ability to get a job……
Things don’t magically change over night. I don’t know, I’m just a trans man that got recommended and took a special “careers for girls” elective that was nurse or cosmetologist.
Bub, i’m cisfemale, been very open about that in this thread and a regular commentor on womensstuff
That comment above? That was sarcasm.
I am not sure if you’re trolling on purpose or not. I think it’s irrelevant. I have a simple rule for life. Don’t be a dick.
How am I being a dick?
Everyday there is another stat of how poorly boys are doing in school. Or another story about men raping women. It’s basicly all thar gets talked about when it comes to men.
You simply do not have to identify with men.
I may be a man, but I remember what it was like to be a child and have a bigger person use their strength against me. So when I hear about a man doing that to a woman or white people doing that to minorities, I make the conscious decision to identify with the victims because I remember being a victim.
Your identity is your choice.
I was with you until the end. Identity is not a choice for a lot of people.
This thread is proof that many feminist would gladly throw trans people under a bus if a woman ran for president as a republican
Identify might have been a poor word, they’re using it in the “empathise” sense, but everyone’s automatically linking it to gender identity (for obvious reasons)
Well said, although I’m pretty sure the person I initially replied to is just a troll.
It is when you have a ‘default’ identity. Like men.
That’s TERF nonsense.
Behold, your logic.
Because literally the only difference between being white and being black in our society is pigment and these things are completely interchangeable. Why may I ask did you not insert blackness in place of femininity? Why did you invert the marginalized group for your hypothetical??
Behold, the “I’m not racist” debate bro
holy shit I didn’t even see the on the nose username before I wrote that hahahaha
Would you be just as fine with a men’s rights conference that banned women? Honest question
White lives matter ass mf
durrr when I evaluate things I make sure to remove all context that way it’s fair hyuck
That isn’t an answer. I protested for BLM, just an FYI
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Okaaaaaayyy… so are you fucking stupid and can’t understand an analogy or something?
Why not go to a white lives matter protest then? Would you be just as fine with that?
So you don’t care. I hope those manospheir assholes pay you for then recruitment
literal MAGA logic
“if you disagree with us and point out how fucking stupid the underlying premises to our position is, you’re just gonna drive people to us!”
You’re dumb as shit just like them
And you are a cunt that refuses to believe that men feel anything besides unending hate for women or one is saying women shouldn’t have their spaces and having male spaces does not effect you.
Not men. Manchildren like you who tell on themselves like this
I doubt you make that distinction.
Try Caleb’s approach for this sort of thing. “Are you a
cannibalman?” “Well, that’s not how I would define myself. If we’re going by what I’m most passionate about, I would say that I’m a woodworker.”