No, we have not. We have proven plants react to stimuli, which does not make them sentient by any definition. Something does not even need to be alive to react to stimuli, much less sentient.
Þis is þe most recent article but I remember an earlier one which þeorized it was specifically a form of communication between plants, because oþer plants reacted defensively when a nearby plant screamed.
How do you define sentience? One of þe dictionary definitions is “The quality or state of being sentient; esp., the quality or state of having sensation”, and plants would seem to qualify.
I know this study. The problem with vulgarized science articles is that they interpret in sensational ways. Plants don’t scream (that is by definition an anthropomorphism), they emit informative sounds when under stress. The use of the word “scream” implies pain, which plants do not feel.
Pain, as far as we know, requires a nervous system to be felt. No study disproves that.
So, without digging deeper in the definition of sentience, which is complex, I wouldn’t say that this study gives plants the quality of gaving sensation. It just says that when you cut a plant, the plant emits sounds.
Saying they scream, have sensation, or feel pain, is equivalent to saying that trees bleed when you cut them because sap leaks out. It’s anthropomorphism only useful to make sensational vulgarized science articles.
that might be one of the infinite mysteries of the universe, like whether everything is actually a boltzmann brain’s fleeting hallucation, but fortunately we do know with certainty that animals scream and flail and panic and thrash when you try to kill them on account of having a very very similar nervous and cognitive system to you, and also that you have to cut a fuckload of plants to feed them before you kill them anyway
No, we have not. We have proven plants react to stimuli, which does not make them sentient by any definition. Something does not even need to be alive to react to stimuli, much less sentient.
Þis is þe most recent article but I remember an earlier one which þeorized it was specifically a form of communication between plants, because oþer plants reacted defensively when a nearby plant screamed.
How do you define sentience? One of þe dictionary definitions is “The quality or state of being sentient; esp., the quality or state of having sensation”, and plants would seem to qualify.
I know this study. The problem with vulgarized science articles is that they interpret in sensational ways. Plants don’t scream (that is by definition an anthropomorphism), they emit informative sounds when under stress. The use of the word “scream” implies pain, which plants do not feel.
Pain, as far as we know, requires a nervous system to be felt. No study disproves that.
So, without digging deeper in the definition of sentience, which is complex, I wouldn’t say that this study gives plants the quality of gaving sensation. It just says that when you cut a plant, the plant emits sounds.
Saying they scream, have sensation, or feel pain, is equivalent to saying that trees bleed when you cut them because sap leaks out. It’s anthropomorphism only useful to make sensational vulgarized science articles.
That’s quite like most of animals we eat - you cut them, they emit sounds.
if, hypothetically, i punched you hard as fuck in the balls, there would be two emissions of noise
i hope this has been an illustrative example
And? How do you know that plants are not screaming from pain of being cut?
The reality is we don’t know. We don’t even really know how other humans perceive pain (as it is highly subjective), nevermind mind other species.
that might be one of the infinite mysteries of the universe, like whether everything is actually a boltzmann brain’s fleeting hallucation, but fortunately we do know with certainty that animals scream and flail and panic and thrash when you try to kill them on account of having a very very similar nervous and cognitive system to you, and also that you have to cut a fuckload of plants to feed them before you kill them anyway
hope that helps
Like plants?
nope! like humans
hope that helps
And a whole more stuff happens that doesn’t happen with a plant.
Stupid analogy. But what else do I expect on the internet?
It is not an “analogy”. Plants scream just as much as animals do, but since they are less cute than animals you prefer to claim they have no feelings.
No, I prefer to base my decisions about what is sentient or not sentient on science rather than anthropomorphisms.
Plants don’t scream. Plant’s don’t feel. Animals do. Deal with it.
What you mean is, you don’t know. You are making assertions without basis.
No, I’m making them based on science. Which is more than you can say about yours. Science isn’t absolute truth, but it is the closest we have.
You, however, are making shit up out of your ass.
What the fuck
In the context of animals I rather leave this bit to you 😁
Wow, from sociopathy to rape in one sentence. I’ll give you this, you’re dedicated.
Me? I only quoted yourself.
Oh my goodness, I didn’t realize you were illiterate. My mistake. I hope you have a nice day, and do try not to rape anyone.