The problem is this is already being used to do political censorship so any restriction on what users can install on their device is harmful, because it’s not just weird nerds but people need to use other apps like ice watch
I prefer package managers & installing software to locked corpo market bullshit loading
“Sideloading” is anti-property-rights loaded language.
The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is “installing normally.”
It is the act of capitulating to Google’s control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I’ve been able to come up with is “cuckloading,” though I’m not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.
Might be easier to come up with a specific name for installing something from Google. “Google loading” maybe.
The we just go back to “installing”.
Walled-Garden-stalling?
“A googol steps to add an app”
Authoritarian-stall
Package Micromanager
Daddy Google’s allowances
Controlware / Slaveware / Theirware
“Google loading” isn’t derisive enough. The example I came up with isn’t quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like “simploading?” Or “dipshitloading?” “Brownloading” (think like “brownnosing”)? IDK, I’m just spitballing here.
I was thinking bitchloading. Cause you’re their bitch.
To really sell it in the US anyway, you could try renaming sideloading to “freedomloading” or maybe “freeloading” (which sounds very Tom Petty, or porn related like “loadblowing”)
Then to rename the vendor locked loading is tricky. Even the old term “jailbreaking” has negative or criminal connotations. Though the jail is where you were wrongfully imprisoned, but that doesn’t convey easily. You could try to flip it around and call the locked down version “jail loading”. Or “commie loading”, all you would need to do is get some democrats to pretend to support vendor lockin.
Problem is any legislator on either side is in the pocket of the corporations who will oppose this, so there is no incentive for a propaganda campaign on the other side. So everyone will renain convinced sideloading is evil criminal hacker shit.
As someone who replaces “core” apps with FOSS alternatives, the 24 hour wait is quite a punishment.
I can get behind a delay to enable side loading and the warning screens are nothing to me since I can just click past them. Though the delay should be more like 30-60 minutes at the most.
The real problem is requiring devs (even outside of the play store) to identify themselves. That is ridiculous and does absolutely nothing to secure the device for the user. (It only secures it under Google for their interests)
I mean I get the idea of the forced restart and the general waiting time - assuming a scammer wants you to install a “side loaded” app, it will disconnect their call with you, of they’re calling you on that phone. Same for a waiting period that forces the scammer to either hang around on the phone with you for a long time or to call again some time in the future.
But 24h?
Patrick Campanale, you’re a spineless corporate shill and I hope one day, you will pay for that spinelessness
The comments on that article seem to agree with you.
Link?
I don’t want to push too much traffic to this guy’s post but it’s titled “Android’s new 24-hour sideloading delay should’ve happened years ago”
Awww… Uncle Google just wants what’s best for me! So what’s the harm in getting into his van? What’s the worst that could happen?
And now we know this “reporter”, Patrick Campanale, is a bootlicker
Let’s not jump to conclusions! He just might really be this stupid to believe these claims.
Let’s punish both types in the same manner to make them both stop.
I like the energy but, ideally, stupidity/ignorance should be punished with education.
* than.
Fuck’s sake.
Can’t expect them to know what good grammar is while fellating Google’s nuts!
Everything on my grapheneOs is sideloaded,
Everything on my GrapheneOS is installed normally, by which I mean “however the fuck I want”.
Fuck allowing the act of exercising your rights as the owner to be demonized with bullshit loaded language!
Why not get an alternative store? Perhaps F-Droid.
Everything is loaded from fdroid or obtanium
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I think it’s a Google Play Services thing. That’s what I’ve heard.
The opinions of a christian youth pastor who loves claude code.
What kind of apps are there that “typically” need to be installed “urgently”? Sure I can work around the delay most of the time (and be at worst annoyed out of my brain by it) but that’s not how a user experience is meant to be designed, is it?
Putting barriers is a systemic disadvantage and we’re right to criticize it, especially since once they establish the president that they’re allowed to do this they can go farther. That always happens and every time you’re told you’re being ridiculous stop overreacting
For a couple of years we directly loaded our app onto dedicated devices that we deployed to client locations. Adding an extra day to this process would require some extra work / planning.
This is for an app that isn’t on the Play Store, and many of these devices don’t have GMS, or a store or browser on them.
We’ve since moved entirely to an MDM, so this isn’t really an issue anymore, but we do occasionally run into a device that’s not yet been enrolled and still uses the manual installation
Anything I want right now that Google is blocking me from is urgent.
How long am I supposed to beg to use my own device?
I’m with you, I’m questioning the wording in the OP’s picture.
Bruh screw android and its updates, it fucked up and it keeps getting worse, its updates are very occasional, at least if they were worthy then fine i’m with ya, but no, they are just junk, they slow down my phone and are many times buggy; it keep restricting users and developers under the term of ‘security’, go fuck ur security, I know what I’m doing, either gimme full control over my property or fuck off. This is MA phone NOT urs!
When I get a new phone, I’ll either find a way to get an old android version like v10, or just find another system.
I’m not going to spend good money on another Android phone and because of this. I used to be willing to tolerate it to some extent but I’m done now. Any further Android devices are going to be low-end burner phones for a specific needs that I can’t meet otherwise. Having a Linux phone is now a matter of necessity not something that would be nice to have
Is 2026 going to be the year of the Linux handheld? /s
(No, Android is no more a Linux OS than the PlayStation is a BSD fork.)
I highly doubt 2026 will be the year of the Linux handheld. But if Linux on the desktop continues growing the way it currently is, it could lay the groundwork for Linux on handhelds.
Realistically, I don’t think any year will be the year when Linux for mobile takes off, ironically for the same reason why Windows Phone failed, and that is app availability, or the “will my banking app work on it?” problem.
you can use most android apps on linux as far as i know
We really can’t find a sincere friendly OS like Linux. I wish Linux and other friendly phone systems had more hardware support. Android is dominating with its “I’m the ruler” philosophy, bc Google knows the alternatives are limited.
If you root Android… It’s pretty much a Linux OS.
Link to the article (for the comments, the article itself is pretty much AI)
https://www.howtogeek.com/android-24-hour-sideloading-delay-shouldve-happened-years-ago/
The last one is probably true, though. Most Android users don’t care about sideloading. Those who are being pressured to do so will face the 24 hour lock.
On the other hand, I’m an iPhone user who knows Android as well as anyone. So if I were to pick up, say a Pixel 11 Pro or a Galaxy S27 (so, looking at next year’s lineup), the first thing I’m gonna do is hit that developer option to enable sideloading. I know where it is. I know how to unlock it. And I know the risks. In the meantime I’m gonna set up Nova Prime, I’m gonna put Poweramp on it, I’m gonna be setting up KLCK and KLWP (and maybe KWGT) and all the other apps. By the time I need to sideload anything, I’ll have the important stuff out of the way and shouldn’t have to wait that long.
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This means though that now the important stuff HAS to come from the play store or you have a 24-hour penalty every time you get a new phone.
In the meantime I’m gonna set up Nova Prime
https://www.androidauthority.com/nova-launcher-acquisition-ads-update-3633871/
I said Nova Prime. That’s the paid version.
I know what they’re doing to free users, and it’s a shame. No one ever said anything about the paid version.
it is still the same company. if you think they respect your privacy just because you paid them, that is on you. but bragging about it publicly in a comment where you try to sound like super experienced user seems funny.
The way I understood it is you have to wait 24 hours every time, not just for activating dev options.
Edit: apparently I was mistaken.
The Google page I read was the opposite of that. The first time you unlock sideloading, they’ll warn you and make you wait for a day. From then on it’s unlocked.
While I hate Google with a passion, and don’t trust them at all, this seems like a reasonable way to handle the issue of non tech people being coerced into sideloading unsavory apps by scammers.
It just sounds like they came up with an excuse to try and be non-compliant with the European Union’s ruling that they’re an illegal Monopoly
Okay, if that’s indeed the case, it’s at
bestworst patronising, yes.(This leaves of course the other, bigger issues of added hurdles to developers)
Edit: Worst is the word.
