Error in the text: 1000mW laser with 532nm wavelength which is green light.
1000nm light is infrared.
Cross posted in https://lemmy.ca/post/64612634
I want to be able to avoid these. Is this one that I should not use?
Lasers on AliExpress might be 1% or 100.000% of the listed power. It might be super dangerous when you think it’s safe, or vice versa.
Never use AliExpress when it comes to things that need to keep you safe, or that go into your body.
If you hit an airplane they will try very hard to track you down. If you hit too many cameras they will probably try to find you, too. They will use your purchase history, social media post history, and location, for instance. So, best to buy the laser somewhere far from where you use it, AND pay cash if you can.
Not that I recommend this, but if you want to try, be smart about it. And, be careful.
But if you do, hide your face first.
Yall make sure you’re not visible on another camera when you try this - it’s not like they won’t be able to figure out when and where you were when you did it. FLOCKs are usually in high camera-density areas like parking lots and strip malls and such, and there’s a lot of pressure to address vandalism against the surveillance apparatus.
I want to be sure I avoid these. Is this what I should try not to use?
I know that Xwitter is usually a reliable source, but 1000nm is outside visual range and therefore not green. Green lasers in the ~500nm range will absolutely damage a camera sensor, but you’ll need good aim and sustained illumination.
If you actually want to do this, look at the NUBM44-V2 laser diode. 7 watts of output power and around $30 on eBay. Another $50 or so for a driver, heat sink, and lens and you can burn out cameras in seconds (you can also burn out your eyes so a good set of laser goggles is essential).
Laser googles lol
Oops, fixed lol
Also worth noting that in a lot of places you’ll need a license to legally own and operate a class 4 laser like thatEdit: I looked into it some more. This might only be true for commercial facilities. Idk though I’m not a lawyer“class 4” is just the highest class, being over 500mw. Technically, the experimental lasers they use on warships are class 4 lasers.
Most countries don’t restrict owning them, but they do restrict selling them. When you have one, it’s kinda like owning a kitchen knife, perfectly legal, but as soon as you do dumb shit with it, thats still on you.
And class 4 lasers make it VERY easy to do dumb shit.
Oi mate you got loicense for that diode
Don’t even fucking joke
We were promised lighsabers and yet we can’t even have a cool torch!
Also make sure your friends have laser goggles, and that nobody is anywhere downrange if you’re trying this. It takes way longer to blind a camera with these than it does to blind a human/animal, and it will turn minor vandalism charges into felonious assault.
This is why I advocate for the anti-surveillance method of “hit camera with big stick”
“Heave rock at bad thing” really does cut to the primal core of the species. Thog not believe how much copper is in mammoth.
Probably don’t even need that much, my cheap eBay laser pointer from 20 years ago damaged one of my first smart phone cameras in a couple seconds because I aimed it directly in. It was red, too, not green. Both work though.
I didn’t want to some in my rites so I thought the camera lens would be OK. It was indeed not OK.
They ostensibly meant mW rather than “nm wavelength” based on the image, but they might not be the brightest laser in the activist’s pocket.
Edit:
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Checks out.
535nm for most/all of my greens.
I do have one of the old 1000mw Wicked Laser blues as well, however, which I think is 445nm.
Oh yeah. And my engraver is 100 watts of infrared (1084nm?), not milliwatts, although the range is probably a bit crap for this sort of thing and it’s not exactly concealable. You’d also want to pack rather a long extension cord.
What would be the type of laser that you should most keep away from camera sensors?
Brutal honesty here: if you can’t figure that out on your own, you really really REALLY should not be playing around with high power lasers.
Silenced .22LR rifle.
Also, you’ll want one with a fair bit of power to it if it’s going to do any permanent damage.
A typical ‘safe’ 5mw laser isn’t going to do shit, regardless of the color/frequency.
What kind of wattage?
Any body has a link to which lasers to avoid just so I don’t even come close?
I assume it’s mostly Americans affected by this so, genuine question. Why buy a laser when one of your regular guns will do a better job, with the same legal ramifications?
Lasering a camera absolutely does not have the same legal ramifications as shooting a gun in public, to say nothing of the safety concerns that come with shooting bullets into the air.
While I 100% agree, shooting a laser powerful enough to burn camera sensors sounds like something dangerous enough that I’d be worried of a reflection blinding someone
High-power lasers are dangerous and you certainly should not operate them if you don’t know what you’re doing, but they are not in the same ballpark as bullets from guns. And if we’re talking strictly about legal jeopardy, IDK I’m not a lawyer but I imagine a prosecutor would have a hard time convincing a jury that a laser is as dangerous as a gun. Not saying it couldn’t happen, but if I had to go to trial with one or the other I know what my preference would be.
A laser won’t kill me if it hits my stomach. A bullet very much might.
On the other hand, a bullet won’t blind a dozen people if it hits a reflective surface. A laser might.
OK, I hear you. How bout baseball bats? They’re something every American has.
My point is that they don’t look too hard to destroy. Why fuck about with lasers?
Generally they’re mounted high enough you can’t hit them with a stick (totally sincere here: I am so curious where the idea that every american has a baseball bat came from. We don’t, that’s like assuming every canadian has a hockey stick). The best method of physically damaging them is just to loop a chain around them and pull them down then hit them with your standard-issue Size 2 Louisville Slugger. But that takes time and several people, so for a quick & clean takedown laser pointers are fairly effective.
They’re usually high up enough that baseball bats would be tough, but they’re an option for some situations. Lasers are nice because they’re inexpensive(ish) and can be operated from a vehicle, e.g. just roll up on a bike, blast the sensor, and scram. There are other options, but if you have a high-power laser already and want to strike a blow for freedom, this is one way to do it.
Idk, if your laser misses and hits an aircraft you’re in for a much worse time than simply firing a gun in public (as long as your bullet doesn’t hit someone)
That may be the stupidest justification for shooting a gun in the air that I’ve ever heard, and I have heard some doozies. The odds that you’ll accidentally intersect an aircraft are astronomically low, and even if you do, it’ll only be for a fraction of a second at most unless you are intentionally tracking the aircraft. To compare that to the danger of firing bullets in the air is absurd. If your best plan for disabling flock cameras is to shoot them with guns, please redirect your activism elsewhere because that is dangerously irresponsible.
Whoa there, chill out. I’m not trying to justify anything and I didn’t say anything about shooting a gun into the air at an airplane.
My point was that hitting aircraft with a laser is pretty much a fuck you in the ass federal offense, whereas firing a gun in public, into the ground for example, will most likely only be a local or state level charge, if anything at all, especially if there’s no injuries or proved intent of harm.
Also, IANAL.
Pointing laser pointers at planes is a federal crime because air traffic is federally regulated. Reckless discharge (steady lads) in a high traffic area, which is where flock cameras are located, falls under state jurisdiction because those laws are state regulated.
The jurisdiction in which a crime is committed does not dictate the severity of the punishment - while lasering a plane generally carries a severe punishment, it’s unlikely it would even be noticed by the crew unless you’re specifically targeting that plane. It’s certainly going to carry a lower sentence than reckless discharge (steady) in a populated area during the commission of a crime.
I am chill, but I have no interest in mincing words: what you said was very stupid and can (and does) get people killed. Don’t shoot guns in the air. If that’s the only plan you can think of, do nothing until you think of a better plan.
Because not only are guns expensive and quite difficult to learn to shoot accurately, shooting at things in crowded areas is likely going to kill someone? And is much more illegal than using a laser pointer for vandalism, even if you don’t hit someone?
Sound.
OK, but, to shoot a handheld laser at a camera and hit the CCD, you have to be in it’s field of view. You could shoot it with a gun outside of it’s field of view. So, is it a greater risk to make a noise, and not be capture on CCTV, or be silent in full view of a law enforcement camera? All things to bear in mind when you’re figuring out the best ways to destroy these things.
This seems
almost dishonestreal unfamiliar with the subject in how it’s presented. The immediacy of the attention you get is really important: A gunshot can be heard for over a kilometer in any direction, even through walls. A laser pointer is both much less noticible and much less dangerous to bystanders.edit: wow, I phrased that like an asshole, sorry.
So it doesnt, but it puts you in the antifa black book.
That book is on volume 80 right now. You can get into it just for expressing disapproval of ice in any setting, including this one.
Is there some special reason green is used?
Presumably yes, camera sensors are more sensitive to green light, because they’re made to mimic human eyes which are also more sensitive to green light.
Also why a green laser will blind you more quickly at equal wattage compared to other colors.
Not a PSA
