What is the origin of that word and it’s particular usage in this context btw?
“Tankie” is a word that originates from British communist circles in the 50s. It was used by communists who opposed the Soviet invasion of Hungary to derisively describe their comrades who supported the invasion. Photos in the British newspapers and such showed a lot of imagery Soviet tanks rolling through Budapest, hence “tankie”.
So, it has its origins as a silly sounding, incredibly niche, bit of British slang. It faded into obscurity after this, but got picked up again by leftists on the internet as a way of poking fun at each other. It’s a funny sounding word and all. At a certain point over the last decade or so, it’s breached containment, and liberals, especially here on Lemmy, love to throw it around without really having a firm idea what they mean by it. I’ve seen everyone from Marxist-Leninists, to Anarchists, to liberal Pro-palestian activists, all called “Tankies”.
OP is using the term here to poke fun at that vague liberal usage. As many liberals, at least here on Lemmy, would look at the calculus of, “US foreign policy is more erratic and dangerous than that of China” and declare it a “tankie” talking point, or “simping for authoritarianism”, as though making an observation about different nation’s foreign policy approaches says anything else about ones opinions of those states other policies or actions.
Domenico Losurdo wrote a book about that, “Western Marxism: How it was Born, How it Died, How it can be Reborn”: https://mronline.org/2025/01/11/domenico-losurdo-western-marxism-how-it-was-born-how-it-died-how-it-can-be-reborn/
You can also find an audiobook of this on torrents and youtube.
Im a simple person, i see a losurdo mention so i just instantly upvote.
Who gives a shit what people call you, just follow your code and keep to your morals.
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And here I thought liberals loved choosing the lesser evil, smh
LOL
Not even sure what this means. Are you carrying over an argument from some other conversation?
I’m making a glib joke about the liberal insistence on utilitarianism when it comes to voting, and how that ethical framework isn’t evenly applied to international relations.
Do you really think that your arguments are somehow well thought out points and don’t scream propagandist mill?
I think you guys never have a compelling response to them and always, 100% of the time, end up saying some version of “These are the Bad Guy Ideas and I don’t have to entertain them, because you are self-evidently Bad Guys and also mentally ill.”
this makes me so happy you got the orange man, I hope he drags you all to hell ASAP where you belong
That says a lot about you.
that I’m an anti-fascist?



Westoid says what?
Sometimes I’m thankful for Americans such as yourself. You don’t actively harm American imperialist interests, but you refuse to learn anything about China beyond what the state department of US tells you. So you never even reach a stage where you can critically analyse why your country’s systems are failing while China is rapidly going up, and will soon be the global hegemon (with a track record far better than the US)
You refuse to see the pitfalls of neoliberalism, and that is how you accelerate the US’ implosion. My only hope is it accelerates even further and doesn’t drag down other countries with itself
to be fair, yes. they are and we do.
Wow I sure am seeing a lot of thinly veiled “but what about” and “that’s just propaganda you’re being lied to by your government and people online and no I will not provide you with anything other than mockery because lmao amiriteguyz” in these comments
Sometimes I wish my instance had downvotes so I could give them to posts like this
Vague posting
What point are you trying to make? A country that commits some of the most heinous atrocities in recent history and has serious flaws in their society like racism and inequality does NOT get to dictate and police others on these matters, especially in matters of morality. It’s completely ironic and hypocritical and not to mention reeks of chauvinism.
Apparently she’s just here to vaguepost.
And what country are we talking about, exactly? Are you sure you know?
Not entirely sure, because you seem to be incapable of just saying what you actually fucking mean
A lot of empty space inside that head of yours.
You just seem ambiently angry
They’re fucking obviously talking about the USA. And you know that, you’re just being obtuse on purpose.
Who hurt you? Why are you so hostile and angry?
Citations Needed podcast:
Whataboutism - The Media’s Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US PolicySince the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cunning of these tricks, we are told, is that of “whataboutism” – a devious Soviet tactic of deflecting criticism by pointing out the accusers’ hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The tu quoque - or, “you, also” - fallacy, but with a unique Slavic flavor of nihilism, used by Trump and leftists alike in an effort to change the subject and focus on the faults of the United States rather than the crimes of Official State Enemies.
But what if “whataboutism” isn’t describing a propaganda technique, but in fact is one itself: a zombie phrase that’s seeped into everyday liberal discourse that – while perhaps useful in the abstract - has manifestly turned any appeal to moral consistency into a cunning Russian psyop. From its origins in the Cold War as a means of deflecting and apologizing for Jim Crow to its braindead contemporary usage as a way of not engaging any criticism of the United States as the supposed arbiter of human rights, the term “whataboutism” has become a term that - 100 percent of the time - is simply used to defend and legitimizing American empire’s moral narratives.
Cool, I don’t remember specifying any country, so I’m not sure why we’re talking as if I’m trying to defend us policy.
I don’t think the recently published map really supports this, it seems to be more between Russia and USA than China and USA
Someone in the comments on [the other site] called me a tankie for arguing that the USA has done way worse things than China in recent history, which prompted the meme. Apparently China shooting missiles into Taiwan waters is just as bad as the US bombing schoolgirls or something.
Alright. I was thinking this was based on the questionnaire where they asked who was bigger threat or some such thing.
It’s not even between Russia and USA, the only people who see Russia as a bigger threat are Europeans. Even Americans now realize they’re the baddies.
I mean living next to a country might, pretty understandably, alter what you consider more dangerous
Shoutout to Spain for not falling for it.
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All of which 100% excuses everything they are doing today.
And what exactly is that?
And by everything they’re doing today you mean raising the standard of living for their people at an unprecedented rate?
😂
Typical shitsjustfash user.
what is north korea doing rn? are they bombing anyone? are they massacring anyone? are they seiging anyone?
“everything”
Then name them.
Hundreds of thousands committed by DPRK during the war. http://m.monthly.chosun.com/client/news/viw.asp?nNewsNumb=200302100069
Just to be clear, S. Korea and the UN/US also committed war crimes, I’m not denying that.
As for what goes on in the DPRK since the war, not sure what sources I can offer that you will actually believe. I readily admit that the US is guilty of crimes against humanity at home and abroad. Can you say the same for the СССР, Russian Federation, PRC, DPRK, etc.?
The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander.
Can you give examples? Both for war crimes as well as examples of imperialism?
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Lol you’ve got nothing
They never do.
Oh, wow. Baited someone that argues about where Rus culture was born 1000 years ago and its relevance to modern events.
Couldn’t have asked for a better example of chauvinism.
What?
What does any of this have to do with chauvinism, btw? Isn’t chauvinism about sexism? Genuinely curious.
Yikes 😅
No, male chauvinism is about sexism. You accidentally a word.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chauvinism
2: undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged
3: excessive or blind patriotism
Arguing if you or another group is the rightful heir of a culture falls under definition 2) or possibly 3)
Ok thanks, guess I was mixing it up with misogyny.
To be clear I’m not of any kind of Slavic heritage, just familiar with the history of the Kievan Rus and the purposeful campaign by Muscovy to take that name and then erase Ukrainian language and culture.
The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they’d ‘take’ what they already were.















