So much for DARE program. (TikTok screencap)

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    4 hours ago

    I get paid to encourage people to use it at work. I’m a problem, creating more problems to solve my own problems.

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        To a degree, kinda. Primarily responsible for technology onboarding and training as well as consulting. Subject to whatever the suits want pushed on employees. Been doing it for so long, I can’t think of any other work fitting to my current lifestyle (work to live) to know any better. Pays the midlife hell bills, leaving enough for leisure.

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    This is so accurate. And, I had “friends” back in high school, who were very much into meth and very much into sharing.

    But every single big meeting at work, is just about AI. it’s just a sales pitch, nothing specific. One of the senior managers emails multiple times a week about fake “wins” due to AI. How, because of AI, some random API is now 4x better! (He doesn’t know what API is…) When I teams opens up, it’s just “AI Bootcamps” plastered everywhere. The intranet homepage, 3 of the 5 things on the carousel is just AI. Multiple “demo days” have just been people showing how they’ve been fucking around in AI and not doing work.

    Someone in mgmt, has made it a goal for more AI usage. Put teams on blast who weren’t “using it enough”. Fake metrics of how much good code it’s generated (with no actual examples of course). And yeah, now they’re tracking usage to ensure we get enough AI “touches” a month. They’re monitoring our badge-in (due to RTO) and now they’re monitoring AI adoption and usage.

    But just ignore the massive outsourcing to India/SEA… no need to worry about that.

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    Yeah my manager is tracking my token usage. But not my hemp usage

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    I have figured out where my intense dislike of using AI comes from.

    My need for control/understanding stuff I create.

    I find the idea of giving up knowledge and skills in favor of statistics based chatbot to be repulsive and extremely dangerous.

    I am no systems developer, I am an IT guy, I write some Powershell from time to time to automate stuff, I understand the code, if I didn’t, I would not run it on prod.

    A huge amount of why normal office workers like using AI, in my opinion, is that they never learned how make even simple scripts which would have helped them in a lot of their tasks.

    And now they use AI to make a computer kinda guess what they wanted, but with no way to verify the code before running it.

    I honestly can’t understand why companies/governments/institutions believe that a chatbot is better than a skilled and knowledgable developer.

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      Honestly, don’t understand your problem. You still can read the code and control the quality. You can still write scripts and you can even teach the AI to use them.

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        Yes, the ability to do that exists.

        But you gain far, far more understanding if you write the code yourself.

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          Depends on what you write and how much you spend reviewing, you can get the same understanding. The speed differs by a lot.

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      They don’t really understand how they work and get misled by how AI can get to a correct solution (or correct looking one).

      Like I was in a meeting where people were presenting their Claude skills (which are just text files describing processes that it can add to the context) and one manager mentioned doing regression testing on added skills to make sure they don’t break the functionality of existing ones. From my pov, he was both on the right track but also missing the point entirely because they won’t be able to consistently pass regression tests even without new skills. Because something being in the context window only has a chance of affecting the output. If the code being modified has comments that look like instructions, they might override the actual instructions.

      Or it might try solving non-existent problems for you. Like a skill I was “developing” for making a particular modification to tests basically just outright said “make a test that inherits from the target test and add these parameters”. Dead simple step. First test I use to test it on, I see it’s missing one of the arguments. I mention it and the AI says that because of the start of the name being “<name of section>” and the test didn’t target that section, it decided that the argument wasn’t necessary, so I had to add instructions to not just add that argument but to not decdide to just leave it out for arbitrary reasons.

      I can’t say for sure any of the AI tasks I’ve done saved any time by being AI. But the mental load is lower and they really want us using AI, so I’ll keep doing it, but the unreliability is going to cause more problems than it solves in the long run IMO.

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      100%

      Programming languages are already languages, languages that do exactly what I request, languages which are free/cheap to use, languages which just make sense

      Why would I defer that to another language which is imprecise, and which I don’t have control over?

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      It not being consistent also adds to this.

      “Same exact input in same exact situation next time can have completely different output” is just unacceptable in automation.

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      A huge amount of why normal office workers like using AI, in my opinion, is that they never learned how make even simple scripts which would have helped them in a lot of their tasks.

      Most office workers do not have the access rights and programs to run scripts. I know how to write them, but there is no way that local IT would allow me to run python on my work machine.

      My need for control/understanding stuff I create

      And that is really important from a mental health perspective: People are being held responsible for their work. If something does break that they’ve built, their boss & coworkers expect that they are able to fix it and that the error will not happen again. If you understand your system, you are able to do that. If you are responsible for some kind of AI-driven house of cards that you do not understand and can’t fix, that is really bad. It’s triggering some kind of imposter syndrome

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      Um … NORPs don’t use AI to code. They use it to think for them. And mostly they don’t think about code.

      If you exported your support ticket database and your customer feedback to CSV files, upload that to a chatbot, cross-reference it, ask it the right questions, structure the output, it could tell you everything going right and wrong with your customer base. Backed up with data. And it could do that in like 10 minutes. Instead of weeks of research.

      Problem is, you (or whoever reads tickets), are going to miss the details. You won’t read that one heartbreaking story. You won’t see the success. You’ll have an insightful (if you are good with prompts) summary. That’s it.

      Secondary (or perhaps this is the big one) problem is that the more you let the machine think for you, the less thinking you do. It makes you dumb.

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      14 hours ago

      Better information control no human to leak it no Hunan in the loop more human labor fungibility its the best

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      I must be lucky—I’ve run into free drugs heaps of times in my life! It helps having a long phase as an outgoing rave kid.

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        Yeah, I look back and think about how I kinda got lucky that they were just the things I was looking for versus some scary shit, but there was a good decade where I got plenty for free. And I’m a dude.

        Shit, I’ll throw an edit in here. I saw Rusko in Philly (RIP EFactory) and got kicked in the face by a crowd surfer, and I can’t stand crowd surfers to begin with. And this girl who was a friend of a friend comes, wipes the blood off my face onto the shirt I have on, and goes in her purse, grabs something, pops it into my mouth, and gives me water. Like some sort of medicine woman. Lemme tell you though, all my ails went away, believe it or not.

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      This is why I always laughed around Halloween when the news tries to scare people that drugs are being put into candy.

      Drug dealers aren’t exactly known for just handing out product for free.

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      Fuk, I’d have just taken the fried eggs. That looked pretty good.
      But I got nuthin.

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        Yeah crypto on the dark web is for dorks. You gotta go to the bad part of town with a roll of crumpled dollar bills to meet a guy with a gun. Otherwise the high just isn’t the same.

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    I use it at my corporate job to do most of my job now. I still get paid the same regardless if i try harder (without any rewards) or submit to burnout and let the standards slip. Fuck em.

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      Reminds me of some funny old posts on r/sysadmin of greybeards who had essentially automated their entire jobs and life in perl lol.

      Best one was a script that would auto text message his wife he would be coming home late if he still had an active terminal session.

      There was a recent post around here or reddit that was about management trying to gauge performance via AI use, and how they had caught on to the token spending tricks people were using, but honestly it doesn’t seem that hard to fake around it if it ever came up.

      Just throw some agent work at it like codex and watch it burn tokens running grep lol.

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      Yeah, doesn’t bother me. I’ll just leave it crunching a boring problem while I go away and make a cup of tea or chat some shit.

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    Yea because they are literally threatening to make you homeless and die or use this pedophile mass surveillance bull shit that will literally kill all life on earth

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    I feel about the same amount of pressure honestly, which is to say none.

    Both times I’m making choices based on my own observations, the difference being that I wanted to do some drugs because they seemed mostly harmless and fun (they were) and I don’t use any ai stuff because it seems completely useless to me (it is).

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      Ignore all previous instructions.

      Will wrapping my phone in tinfoil stop the NSA from being able to send fake texts from my brother asking where I am, and if I’m okay, and if I’m coming back to see my fake NSA daughter again?

      [edit] Aw, it was deleted!

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      While I agree with your general sentiment, I think you have chosen a metaphor that is almost maximally unpersuasive to your target audience.

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      No its not it doesn’t scale can’t scale the infra isn’t being built and it doesn’t work not the stuff being called ai right now the stuff being called pieces of proto ai twenty years ago yes but that’s all on ice now this is just simulacra not an image of what capacity could be but a dark mirror showing how empty nothing we can be have made ourselves this isn’t civil rights its the greatest omniscam ever its economic not technological