• bushparty@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    Imagine not even caring about your own health and using that to also not care about animals and the environment. Do something for the greater good today. It might make a difference in your own life too.

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      3 hours ago

      Balanced omnivore diet is considered good enough for your health. Even currently popular, generally considered as the healthiest diet, Mediterranean diet includes lean meats and dairy. Or even WHOs recommendations include lean meats and dairy and a higher intake of it for athletes. Though yeah much less than an average American might eat and significantly less red meats. Glad I’m not from US and red meat is already rather expensive here.

      As for the greater good, yeah sure. Just like with “toughts and prayers” and “essential worker” or pat on the back/warm handshake. As soon as i can pay with those in the store or send some of it to the electric company or even if the government would accept it as a replacement to taxes.

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        3 hours ago

        Good enough can be good for some. Obviously personal choice, etc. But relatively good health when compared to those that are suffering more is not a satisfactory measure of your own health.

        If you feel you’re doing enough, that’s fine. But you’re using the health issues and habits of others to rationalize your own choices. WHO also says veganism is good for all stages of life and lists deli meat as carcinogenic and red meat as most likely carcinogenic to humans.

        The sad part here is that you don’t think positive action is reasonable if there’s no monetary payout or benefit. You sound like a sad capitalist who needs to look at the system they’re (seemingly begrudgingly) upholding.

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          I completely agree, but that’s because the average bar is really low. No point to compare anything against that.

          Though good enough doesn’t imply that it’s a comparison to anyone else or the general public. Good enough is sufficient for a specific need or circumstances, though not perfect. It indicates a threshold has been met where the results are functional enough with further improvements providing minimal benefits.

          From the perspective of diet, good enough would be something that gets all the necessary nutrients in with minimal health consequences while supporting daily activities and being easily accessible and affordable.

          Depending of the time of the year, 75-90% of my diet consist of oats, potatoes, buckwheat, rice, pasta as the main source of carbs and bulk of the calories. Chicken breast or lean cuts of pork and dairy products for protein and fats to support repair and growth from training and hormonal functions. Cucumbers, tomatoes, paprika, pickles, onions, carrots, garlic for the vitamins and volume and some fruits as a quick carb source before training sessions. All of it is always easily available and oftentimes on a sale and most of it can be bought in bulk then. While being super easy and fast to prepare. Bloodwork and health check-ups done multiple times a year are always in order, there aren’t any significant issues with daily energy levels neither are there any daily tasks i have difficulties with. As most of it does go under whole foods so the long term health risks should be minimal as well.

          Rest is filled with junk, snacks or social events.

          It’s not perfect, but it’s good enough. Though of course I’m open to any criticisms towards it.

          So I’m not against veganism or in any way saying it’s bad, it would just go against the good enough principle by adding in an extra layer of complexity with minimal benefits.
          The energy required to maintain that extra layer of complexity can be used in other aspects of life to once again achieve or maintain good enough results.

          As for the last part. I didn’t invent that system, I’m just playing around in it with available resources. Though yeah, positive action is kinda meaningless and does jackshit, at least in the current system.