cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/64572229
Listen to Malcolm X if you haven’t. In history, reformation follows revolutionary acts. While there are those who preach peace, there are also those who use violence to achieve peace. Those in power obviously don’t like to shed light on those that may take up violent acts.
I doubt if the french revolution was occuring today that CNN, CBS, The Washington Post, etc, would say anything. And if they did it would be to demonize the acts.
In the wake of the alleged shooting by Luigi Mangione, insurance providers started approving claims, saving lives. I don’t see major networks pointing out that fact.
Quick question, have you had to use it for anything serious?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t know it was good.
This year I have paid $1000 for over $1,000,000 of medical care.
Admittedly I doubt it actually costs that much but even if it’s a fraction I feel grateful what I’m paying is not too much.
Wow, you really DO have abnormally good insurance, to only pay a grand in a year.
For anybody else confused by this because you live in a civilized country, let me translate: The standard offering from employers nowadays is called a high deductible health plan. The deductible is the amount you have to pay* for healthcare before your insurance pays anything, and it is typically several thousand dollars.
(* There are a few preventive services that are 100% covered, so if you have no health issues whatsoever you can still get a yearly checkup and a flu shot without paying extra)
Has it occurred to you that you shouldn’t be paying anything at all?
I’ve been in mental healthcare for my entire adult life and some of my childhood. I’ve paid nothing. I’m almost in my 40s at this point so it’s been a good (heh not even) 25+ years. The biggest expense was buying stuff from vending machines lol. Medicare has its faults, but I’d rather have a faulty Medicare than the us “health” system
UK here, I’m getting my asthma inhalers free now im in Scotland, but was like £7 in England. Ive had 2 operations and about a week of ward-care, all “free”.
We’re also being told over and over and over again that the NHS is not fit for purpose and needs to be scrapped and privatised completely. Its baffling.
Yep
Australia ain’t perfect, but it’s close
Yup. Same with the ndis. I’ve probably cost the govt millions over the last few decades. Between the ndis and medicare, I shudder to think how much I’ve cost them. But I’m soooooo thankful for both of those services.
In what western country would you pay less than $1000 annually for healthcare?
They didn’t pay less than $1000 for healthcare. They paid $1000 in addition to their insurance. In developed countries you pay for your healthcare and then you don’t pay for it again when you actually use it.
You are correct. I should have included the normal payments in the total but my spouse pays that so I don’t know what it is.
In developed civilized countries, you pay according to your ability to pay, because it’s not a business: it’s a common service, we don’t want anyone to go without.
Australia
New Zealand
The UK
That is something I can’t conceive of and I’m not alone.
Big numbers are sometimes big for no reason and elimantiong middlemen makes it go down.
Edit: I’m sorry you went through whatever it was regardless.
If you knew the details it might not be as crazy as it sounds… probably not a million but many thousands I’m sure.
Yeah it was pretty rough. Most difficult experience of my life. Even family members said for them it was also their most difficult experience.
The point your missing is you shouldn’t have to pay anything.
That would be nice but is there anywhere on earth that has totally free healthcare? I thought even the gov run ones have some payments involved.
Payments might make sense for some discretionary things, as long as they’re affordable. There are a small number of people who really will just make shit up for attention and even a small cost can help mitigate that. But it has to be affordable for everyone which it obviously isn’t under capitalism.
In developed countries part of your taxes goes to healthcare, and then you get healthcare when needed. Sometimes you pay extra if you want something outside of the regular coverage, but it’s always something extra. Like, you get an operation, but if you want a personal room for recovery you pay extra for it, otherwise they give you a bed in a room for, like, 4. That sort of things.
My appendix burst, and I almost died
It didn’t cost me a cent
I had a fuckwit colleague do something dumb, and I almost lost a fingertip
It didn’t cost me a cent
Etc. etc.
Fuck 'Murica
It is free in Denmark. There is still a private option if you want to pay, but public healthcare is free.
So you don’t pay anything at all? Interesting I wasn’t under the impression that actually existed.
In comparison:
German statutory health insurance (GKV) in 2026 totals around 21% of gross salary (14.6% base + ~2.9% average Zusatzbeitrag) plus 3.6% Pflegeversicherung — combined employer and employee. For a €4,000/month salary, that’s roughly €840/month total; at the income cap of €5,812.50, the full combined cost reaches about €1,220/month. Employee and employer each cover roughly half.
I think the cheapest combination would be state owned hospitals and health centers. The state owns the land, pays the staff and buys equipment and medication in huge quantities, which may result in cheaper prices. If not, they could also start producing their own base medication.
A profit oriented health sector is not a good idea. It only gives you minimum care combined with high costs.
No fucking way the real cost is $1M unless you had an organ transplant. And that’s still considering US prices which are inflated.
It probably wasn’t that high but hundreds of thousands I would believe. I don’t really want to go into the details for privacy reasons but it required a lot of medical care and expertise. Probably more than a transplant although I’m not too knowledgeable about that.
I see. I’m glad you’re OK!
Me too. My wife had cancer.
Damn sorry. Hope things turned out OK.
So far they have for me but it’s sort of an ongoing thing still…