Am I the only one deeply irritated that the left going lane has no arrows and no one is indicating left either?
This intersection really hurts my sense of order!
Some people don’t indicate when the lane they’re in can be used only to go one way. It’s not necessarily the best course of action, but you just sorta learn to deal with it
Should be visible on the first panel, unless painted totally randomly out of sync to the right-pointing arrows.
But that would also trigger my sense of order, soooo… :-)
Because your indicator signals unambiguous intent to any observer who does not possess the same universal mental database of every intersection in the world that you must possess.
You can literally only make a left or illegal right.
Why would turning right be illegal?
As far as we can see, it is a lane with no mandatory direction (which is the thing that has been bugging me in the first place).
But, TBF, I believed that myself for a long time, only to have the called police give me a little crash course in traffic lane rules after I had a car crash in a somewhat similar situation…
I don’t think you have to indicate left when it’s the only possible direction you can go
But with no arrows on the ground, you could also go to the right.
Had to learn that the hard way some years ago, when a car standing on a arrow-less lane, unexpected by me, also turned left together with myself standing on the left-arrow-lane.
We then had a crash while merging lanes, and it was determined to be my fault entirely.
So the comic also triggers a bit of PTSD for me… ;-)
Sounds like a fucked up intersection if two lanes merge into one during the turn. Usually they will be two lanes with a solid white to indicated not to switch lanes.
This is precisely why you always indicate. In the absolute worst case scenario, it’s redundant information. But it also indicates unambiguous intent even when the traffic pattern is confusing or unfamiliar.
You also need to indicate even when you think you are alone. Again, worst case scenario, nobody sees it. But on the off chance that your awareness is not perfect, it indicates unambiguous intent to anyone - including pedestrians - you might have not noticed.
Yes, it is a fucked up intersection, although the two lanes don’t merge into one.
But what you don’t realize there (because of coming out of a slight ditch) is that the target road on the left you are going to, actually has two parallel lanes.
Didn’t expect that at all, and the hinted broken lines on the ground are practically useless, as they have to connect 8 arriving lanes to all their possible counterparts in a chaotic way on a curved surface.
So I just headed to the right side of the left road (not realizing I thereby did a implicit change of lanes), while the car to my right was totally unexpectedly overtaking me from behind, starting from the unmarked lane I didn’t suspect to also optionally lead to the left…
Really fucked up situation for anyone not being local and accustomed to it.
Am I the only one deeply irritated that the left going lane has no arrows and no one is indicating left either?
This intersection really hurts my sense of order!
Some people don’t indicate when the lane they’re in can be used only to go one way. It’s not necessarily the best course of action, but you just sorta learn to deal with it
My headcanon is that the right turning person’s blinker is the only one out of sync
Thanks, that idea has a certain beauty to it.
I will now adopt it and move closer to inner peace again!
They’re all BMWs…
How do you know? They’d all be obscured by the cars.
Should be visible on the first panel, unless painted totally randomly out of sync to the right-pointing arrows.
But that would also trigger my sense of order, soooo… :-)
It’s a left-only lane, why would you have a blinker on?
Because your indicator signals unambiguous intent to any observer who does not possess the same universal mental database of every intersection in the world that you must possess.
Why would it be a left-only lane?
There are no arrows on the lane…
And even if it was, you still have to indicate your desired direction, as the direction of the lane might not be clear to all traffic participants.
Because going forward would lead you into the railing and grass. You can literally only make a left or illegal right.
You’re the reason we have to add “coffee is hot” warnings on take away cups, mate.
Why would turning right be illegal?
As far as we can see, it is a lane with no mandatory direction (which is the thing that has been bugging me in the first place).
But, TBF, I believed that myself for a long time, only to have the called police give me a little crash course in traffic lane rules after I had a car crash in a somewhat similar situation…
I don’t think you have to indicate left when it’s the only possible direction you can go
You do, because the other drivers cannot be expected to track whether that’s your only possibility.
But with no arrows on the ground, you could also go to the right.
Had to learn that the hard way some years ago, when a car standing on a arrow-less lane, unexpected by me, also turned left together with myself standing on the left-arrow-lane.
We then had a crash while merging lanes, and it was determined to be my fault entirely.
So the comic also triggers a bit of PTSD for me… ;-)
Sounds like a fucked up intersection if two lanes merge into one during the turn. Usually they will be two lanes with a solid white to indicated not to switch lanes.
This is precisely why you always indicate. In the absolute worst case scenario, it’s redundant information. But it also indicates unambiguous intent even when the traffic pattern is confusing or unfamiliar.
You also need to indicate even when you think you are alone. Again, worst case scenario, nobody sees it. But on the off chance that your awareness is not perfect, it indicates unambiguous intent to anyone - including pedestrians - you might have not noticed.
Yes, it is a fucked up intersection, although the two lanes don’t merge into one.
But what you don’t realize there (because of coming out of a slight ditch) is that the target road on the left you are going to, actually has two parallel lanes.
Didn’t expect that at all, and the hinted broken lines on the ground are practically useless, as they have to connect 8 arriving lanes to all their possible counterparts in a chaotic way on a curved surface.
So I just headed to the right side of the left road (not realizing I thereby did a implicit change of lanes), while the car to my right was totally unexpectedly overtaking me from behind, starting from the unmarked lane I didn’t suspect to also optionally lead to the left…
Really fucked up situation for anyone not being local and accustomed to it.
Maybe the arrows are covered by the cars.
Not in the first panel.
If there were arrows, they should be visible in parallel to the arrows going to the right.