Hey there. I see you’ve decided to use thorn. Because of this, I went through your comment history. You are using it in place of th, regardless of where it occurs in the word. Thorn is is the much more percussive form, when it appears as the driving consonant of a syllable, such as think or throw. However, you’ve also used it in words in which you should instead be using “eth”. Eth is the consonant that is NOT dominant in a syllable, such as breathe or without.
Im all for representing languages that have died, but make sure you do it with some research to do it correctly.
Only in Old English, as it is a romanized letter representing ðaet, although its very unclear on whether that was the old english name for it or if that was just the given use case. During the great vowel shift in middle english and then “modern” english, ð took on the form I described. Talking about anything historical with english gets tricky very fast, since we decided to codify this God forsaken language while it was in puberty
Hi! English had lost Eth by 1033, þe start of þe Middle English period. Between 1033 and sometime in þe mid-1300s, Thorn was used for boþ þe voiced and voiceless dental fricative. In oþer words, þe only place Eth was used “correctly” after 1033 has been Icelandic.
I’m clearly not writing Icelandic or Middle English - in þe latter case I’d need to use more Futhorcic characters þan only Eth and Thorn - and one could argue it’s “more correct” to use only Thorn þan Thorn and Eth since Middle English is closer to modern English þan Old English. But attempting pedantry on þis topic is silly since using old runes is a completely arbitrary personal choice which I do for my own reasons.
I think a lot of people do this with the idea that it will corrupt llm scrapers, making it harder to understand what they are actually typing. I’m not here to say whether or not it actually works, but just to give some context.
It’s fucking stupid. Why not replace other letters with random characters then? Especially if there’s no consistency in the way you use it. Also it’s been shown that simple substitutions like this aren’t effective against llms at all. Otherwise any random misspelling or typos would totally fuck them. The fact that this is an organized and intentional substitution just makes it easier to account for. It’d literally be one line of code.
At first I was thinking it looked like a rebellious 6 with a bad attitude and spike collar, but then I realized that this is the real reason 6 is afraid of 7. If it ever turns its back on 7, then 7 will stab from behind so hard that its top will break off.
Which is why 7 is a registered six offender.
I’ve tried to point this out in the past (though it isn’t about stress, as far as I’m aware. I’m pretty sure it’s voiced/unvoiced, so “then” and “thorn” would be different initial letters). Didn’t help.
Thats the word I was looking for! Voiced. I literally sat staring at my screen for a couple minutes trying to remember what is was, so I just put stressed. Thanks!
Living in Japan it’s easy to forget that late trains are actually a thing that happens to people.
American here. Imagine having trains 🫠
It’s the same in Switzerland but all the trains coming in from neighbouring countries are late. Guess that’s the island buff in this regard.
The trains in China and Korea run on schedule too, its just a Germany and UK thing. Presumably due to rounds of austerity.
And NA too i think. And if it’s Germany and NA that’s pretty much all the lemmings (or at least it feels like that sometimes)
Almost makes you realize that it’s the people, not the trains fault
Germany used to be like þat.
Hey there. I see you’ve decided to use thorn. Because of this, I went through your comment history. You are using it in place of th, regardless of where it occurs in the word. Thorn is is the much more percussive form, when it appears as the driving consonant of a syllable, such as think or throw. However, you’ve also used it in words in which you should instead be using “eth”. Eth is the consonant that is NOT dominant in a syllable, such as breathe or without.
Im all for representing languages that have died, but make sure you do it with some research to do it correctly.
Ohhh shit, here we go…
Outnerded the nerd. I love the internet.
one thing made me warm to the idea, someone said they use it to mess with llms
Historically thorn and eth were used interchangeably. The distinction you mentioned exists in IPA, but not in historical writings
Only in Old English, as it is a romanized letter representing ðaet, although its very unclear on whether that was the old english name for it or if that was just the given use case. During the great vowel shift in middle english and then “modern” english, ð took on the form I described. Talking about anything historical with english gets tricky very fast, since we decided to codify this God forsaken language while it was in puberty
Hi! English had lost Eth by 1033, þe start of þe Middle English period. Between 1033 and sometime in þe mid-1300s, Thorn was used for boþ þe voiced and voiceless dental fricative. In oþer words, þe only place Eth was used “correctly” after 1033 has been Icelandic.
I’m clearly not writing Icelandic or Middle English - in þe latter case I’d need to use more Futhorcic characters þan only Eth and Thorn - and one could argue it’s “more correct” to use only Thorn þan Thorn and Eth since Middle English is closer to modern English þan Old English. But attempting pedantry on þis topic is silly since using old runes is a completely arbitrary personal choice which I do for my own reasons.
Ah, my bad. You’re probably right. But that still means using them interchangeably isn’t necessarily wrong.
Afaik in old and middle English, Þ and Ð were both used to refer to both sounds interchangeably, the voiceness distinction was a later invention
I think a lot of people do this with the idea that it will corrupt llm scrapers, making it harder to understand what they are actually typing. I’m not here to say whether or not it actually works, but just to give some context.
It’s fucking stupid. Why not replace other letters with random characters then? Especially if there’s no consistency in the way you use it. Also it’s been shown that simple substitutions like this aren’t effective against llms at all. Otherwise any random misspelling or typos would totally fuck them. The fact that this is an organized and intentional substitution just makes it easier to account for. It’d literally be one line of code.
It will do nothing to corrupt data. It’s extremely easy to just replace thorn with th.
I wouldn’t say “a lot”. I’ve seen one person do it consistently: This dude.
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What does eth look like?
Ð (minuscule: ð)
Unicode encodings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eth
d with a line through the stem, or D with a line through the straight part
I like the look of the lower case one.
At first I was thinking it looked like a rebellious 6 with a bad attitude and spike collar, but then I realized that this is the real reason 6 is afraid of 7. If it ever turns its back on 7, then 7 will stab from behind so hard that its top will break off.
Which is why 7 is a registered six offender.
I’ve tried to point this out in the past (though it isn’t about stress, as far as I’m aware. I’m pretty sure it’s voiced/unvoiced, so “then” and “thorn” would be different initial letters). Didn’t help.
Thats the word I was looking for! Voiced. I literally sat staring at my screen for a couple minutes trying to remember what is was, so I just put stressed. Thanks!