• Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    9 hours ago

    This map is the gift that keeps giving:

    • Obodo Oyibo Belfast, Polar Obodo Oyibo — Obodo oyibo is “white man land” in Igbo. See RL Niger and Nigeria.
    • Big Wota — colonisers often picked some random word/expression the locals mention and assumed it was the name of the place. See RL Yucatán, probably from Maya ma’anaatik ka t’ann (I don’t understand you)
    • Baris, Rom, Nedelan, Phrans, Deutshland, Doisrikondre, Caucasia — Paris, Rome, Netherlands, France, Germany [Deutschland], Germany (again) Caucasus. It’s all somewhere there anyway.
    • Cabo Cinza — geographical feature + adjective. See RL Cabo Verde (Green Cape).
    • Duckstan — it’s basically “place of the ducks”; most of the time you see -(i)stan being associated with a local people but that isn’t obligatory, see Persian ⟨گلستان⟩ (gulistān “rose garden”). See RL Lagoa dos Patos (Ducks Lagoon).
    • Lithium Coast, Cheese Coast — after some local resource. See RL Argentina, Brazil, Ivory Coast
    • Qhadafia — after some random political big shot. (From the colonising side, of course.) See: RL Philippines, Victoria
    • Kemetic Ocean — Kemet is the old name of Egypt, both the pre-Roman kingdom and the region around the Nile. I think it’s being modelled after the RL Atlantic Ocean vs. Atlas.

    Surprised to not see any place being called “Big River” or “Day of Arafah Island”.

  • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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    4 hours ago

    i recommend everyone learn to recognize colonization on a map. it’s a really great skill to have when you’re trying to figure out what the truth is in a heavily propagandized media environment

  • vane@lemmy.world
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    South parts were colonized by Ottoman Empire and other north Africans after Roman Empire collapse until crusades so for around 1000 years. That is way more than modern history of America.

  • Rawrosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The line through the middle of Sweden and Norway is not far off from separating the southern swedes and norweigns from the samí.

    • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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      The suffix -(i)s(e)tan in Classical Persian and descendants means roughly “place of $noun”. While you see it often being attached to human groups, that isn’t the only way to use it. Like,

      • flower garden: ⟨بستان⟩ bostân = place of fragrance[s]
      • hospital: ⟨بیمارستان⟩ bimârestân = place of [the] ill
      • summer: ⟨تابستان⟩ tâbestân = place of heat
      • rural district: ⟨دهستان⟩ dehestân = place of village[s]
      • etc.

      So you could theoretically name some place after the local fauna with -stan.

      It helps if you remember that suffix is cognate to “stand”, “status” (see status quo), “stay”.

  • plutopos@lemmy.zip
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    10 hours ago

    Some Northern Italians would thank you for separating them from the Southern ones