• velma@sh.itjust.works
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    6 hours ago

    You ask wait staff if they prefer a stable wage or receiving tips. The overwhelming majority of them will want to keep tips.

    It would be better if we eliminated tips overall and paid fair wages. But the people who directly benefit will still fight you on it.

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      5 hours ago

      But the people who directly benefit will still fight you on it.

      Is that still true? Even back when I has tipped workers as peers, their attitudes were mixed. If you have any polling data, that would be appreciated – but, I don’t have any data either, just vague memories.

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        5 hours ago

        I’m admittedly talking from a personal experience living in a HCOL area that does not have a lower wage for wait staff. Wait staff are paid $17.13 at minimum here and that’s before tips.

        So it is area dependent. Probably.

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          When I had tipped peers, wait staff got $2.15/hr + tips. It certainly changes the calculus.

    • Having worked in food service, and having many friends who do, I don’t know a single person who would rather keep tips. The majority have openly talked shit about tipping. Everyone I know hates tipping except the management that benefits from it.

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        I live in a very HCOL area and that probably has more to do with attitudes on tipping anything. Wait staff in this area can easily earn wages that are much, much higher than minimum wage with tips.

        For example, the state in the US I live in does not have a lower base pay for wait staff. They’re making at minimum $17.13 an hour before tips.