• ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
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    Well there you are it really is as crap as they promised.

    That build quality would embarrass an Indian auto worker.

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    Hard pass for me for various reasons but I hope this does well enough to make other auto companies want to compete.

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    This sounds nice for someone who needs a truck. But I have lots of kids. Why can’t I get an EV minivan for under $50k?

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    I only have a truck so i can tow a trailer. I wish they included some towing capacity and range numbers.

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    My buildout went to $33,600 for fastback with roof rack and speakers

    While that’s a lot more than base, it’s exactly what I want and it’s still a great price compared to any other EV available to me. The only thing it would really not be good at is road trips but I still have my model Y

    But as a big and tall guy I would never buy a vehicle without trying it to see if it’s comfortable for me …… and to see if I can remove the back seats and fit it out as a camper. (My brother is doing that with a sienna hybrid and he probably has the right idea: lack of range could be a problem if you want to camp for a week with no electric)

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    9 hours ago

    FYI: it looks like slate has switched battery chemistry and suppliers. They will now be using LFP batteries. Cheaper, but they’ll last longer. Especially if you charge them to 100% and discharge them below 15%.

    An overall win, as there was a zero chance I would have bought one if they put the NMC batteries in it they were going to use.

    There will no longer be battery options for a small 150 mile range battery or a bigger battery that would go around 240 miles, though. Now (due to LFP batteries not being as energy dense) there’s only going to be one battery option that they claim will have a 205 mile range.

    Unfortunately for me, this means I won’t be getting one. I need to go 180 miles round trip between charges, and that’s just cutting it way too close. Especially during winter time when the range would be reduced by quite a bit.

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      Never mind the low price, not having that shit built in is the killer feature for me, making it the only new car I would even consider buying. (It’s just too bad they won’t have a 4x4 version for another couple of years.)

      It is kinda good that there’s an optional module available, though, because it means there’s an interface that, in theory, a third-party module running Free Software could hook into.

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      I’m fairly sure some spying is required by law, like the new driver cam legislation. Wonder how they’ll get past that.

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        I was wondering about that 2027 legislation and how this vehicle is affected. I didn’t see anything. Maybe that’s a next year production problem.

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    I hate the state of current website reporting.

    so many sites give so much information but absolutely refuses to provide the original website or source. Instead, deciding to send the viewer through ClickHell as they try to navigate their own website sending the user in circles usually via links that go to their own pages to propagate views/clicks. I hate it

    How hard is it to just link to the Slate’s main webpage after reporting on the product that way, the viewer can look at it themselves. Not one of the web pages they link there or any of the pages in said links lead to the actual vehicles site that they are reporting on.

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      For the life of me I don’t know why we don’t develop something like this in Canada. It’s so frustrating, we have the people, the manufacturing space, the materials, we could do this.

      Whenever something about Canada making vehicles gets brought up, all the nay sayers climb on immediately saying how it can’t be done. I’m sick and tired of them. Nothing worth doing comes easy, if left to these naysayers we’d all be still living in squalor.

      We need to move away from the U.S. entanglement, the American public can’t be trusted to elect a proper government.

      Building our own low cost, modest feature vehicles would be an excellent start. How many features of a car do people use for a normal commute to work, or such? I’d love a truck like the Slate, except it has to have 4 wheel drive ability. After having Hondas with all wheel drive, I’ll never go back to an older 2 wheel drive vehicle.

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        Before the current political chaos, you would have made a mint. A little ingenuity and affordable value, along with the worlds second biggest car market next door would have been huge

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        Slate raised at least $111 million in Series A financing, including an undisclosed amount from Bezos. Slate then raised $600 million in 2024 from Mark Walter, the controlling owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers and CEO of Guggenheim Partners, Jeff Bezos, and General Catalyst, a venture capital firm.[5] In mid-2026, the company said it had completed a $650m series C investment round, which took its total capital raised to $1.4bn.[6]

        source

        Bezos was seed money AND part of the owner conglomerate that raised all the capital the company started with in 2024. That is enough for me to avoid this like the plague as it will, certain as the sun is hot, be enshitified to the core

        If you do not believe me, here is an article explaining how this is all a big Amazon initiative

        https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/08/inside-the-ev-startup-secretly-backed-by-jeff-bezos/

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          I would truly not be surprised that this would be an attempt to take over there ev truck market, but manufacturers should have been paying attention. There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

          While I’m sure they’ll try to enshittify, the downside to that plan is that they need to make sure no one takes their place and they need to have something people want that they can enshittify. The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.

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            I drove a small truck at one point. Think a late 90s Tacoma, Ranger, or something like that. I don’t want an F250. I don’t want a Ram 3500. I just want to be able to haul a bed full of bikes to the MTB trail and help my friends move a washing machine.

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              Small truck form factor is only one checkbox on my list. I want to do that with electric instead of gas, yes, but as cheaply as possible without all the expensive gimmicks and touch screens. Give me manual roll up windows if they’re cheaper, I don’t care. 25k USD is still too much in Canada.

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              Slate has a size comparison widget on their website. You can show it with the silhouette of a current full size pickup and a circa 1985 small pickup. It’s almost exactly the same size as that generation.

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                That’s cool. 99spokes does that for bicycles and I’ve found it useful in that respect. Would be cool to compare all of the cars I ever had like that.

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              I really love my hybrid Maverick. It is still bigger than I want, but it works really well and averages about 40mpg. I can also fit it in a normal parking spot, which is nice.

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                I wish the Maverick was body on frame and had better tow capacity. It’s almost what I want.

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            There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

            Absolutely correct. The American car makers keep on saying “we only want big trucks” but that is complete BS, there is plenty of demand for smaller trucks which is why they have lobbied the gov to all but ban any possible import

            The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.

            While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.

            If the company is not for sale, then they would have the monopoly on small trucks and thus, freedom to enshitify

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              While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.

              I agree, but without the complications of a combustion engine, it makes it a lot easier. You can buy ev conversion kits for around $15k, so there’s also an “I’ll make my own, with blackjack, and hookers” option.

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                so there’s also an “I’ll make my own, with blackjack, and hookers” option.

                Always the best option! hahahaha

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            There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

            Ford is. The Maverick is selling like hotcakes (not the 60s coupe). And they have an electric small truck coming soon as well. There’s also Tello.

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            There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

            That’s incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.

            Toyota is about to release one to compete with the Maverick, and Dodge has a small and a mid sized truck in the works.

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              Those are midsized. I would say Hyundai is the only one with the Santa Cruz, and that’s not really a truck.

              Edit: I stand corrected, I had assumed the maverick was rwd/awd, not fwd/awd. I’m going to amend my statement and say the maverick is also not really a truck. I consider having the drive wheels under the payload to be an important aspect of a truck. Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

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                The Santa Cruz is absolutely a truck. It even has a 3500lb towing capacity. Plus it’s only 4in shorter than the Maverick.

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                The Santa Cruz is exactly as much as a truck as the Ford Maverick is (which is to say, they’re both unibody vehicles).

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              That’s incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.

              And they are still inefficient monsters compared to what a real small truck should be:

              Ford Maverick (2022+):

              • Length: Approx. 199.7 inches (5.07 meters) almost 1.7 meters larger, 6 feet or so

              • Width: Approx. 72.6 inches (1.84 meters)

              • Height: Approx. 68.7 inches (1.75 meters)

              • Bed Length: 4.5 feet (approx. 54 inches / 1.37 meters) 45% LESS cargo space than a kei truck

              Typical Kei Truck (e.g., Suzuki Carry):

              • Length: Max legal limit is 3.4 meters (133.9 inches / 11.15 feet).

              • Width: Max legal limit is 1.48 meters (58.3 inches). Often around 1.4 meters.

              • Height: Varies, but typically around 1.9–2.0 meters (75–79 inches) including the cab/bed height, though the cargo bed side walls are very low (often ~1 meter total height from ground).

              • Bed Length: Typically around 2.0 meters (78 inches / 6.5 feet), which is actually longer than the Maverick’s bed in some configurations relative to the vehicle length, though the total footprint is much smaller.

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                You gotta add a normal US truck to your stats.

                The Santa Cruz and Maverick are 2-3.5ft shorter than a Ram 1500.

                I have a Santa Cruz, and it looks like a toy truck next to the normal ones. Especially next to duallies.

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                  oh yes most others are way bigger… but I was comparing the “small” trucks that are actually available in the USA to make the point they are not in the same level the real small trucks are

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      Same as a European, I do hope it succeeds though and as much as I hate bezos if he’s backing shit like this my opinion of him has increased by about 3.83%.

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      I heard that Bezos left the company as an investor. I don’t blame you for disliking anything American, but Slate Auto seems alright so far…

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    Yep. Seen this schtick a hundred times.

    Now that the seal is broken on price hikes, it’ll climb more and more. About the time it reaches double, the project will be canceled. Investors will be screwed, and some slimeball will run off with the cash just like he always planned to.

    Just like all the other ones.

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    The concept is a good one. The marketing and financial backing is bad. I think an affordable ev would be a good thing, but this is America.

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    You’d have to be a massive idiot to think buying into a Bezos led infrastructure won’t nickle and dime them to death down the road…

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      Off the bat, this thing is basically a dumb phone and it’s going to be very easy for third parties to mess with the platform. My bigger concern with the first launch is quality control. It’s a new vehicle, a new platform, and they’re trying to be extremely cost conscious. I won’t be surprised if there are quality issues with the first production run.

      My guess is that, like with Rivian, Bezos is more interested in an EV platform for logistics. These are cheap, they don’t dent, they the don’t have a lot of electronics that can break, they can be easily retrofitted with new logistics platforms if you have an Allen wrench, they’re small enough for urban areas, and you don’t pay for gas.

      Bezos is a lot of shitty things, but what made him rich was being a penny pinching logistics geek. This is right up his alley. Cheap to buy, cheap to maintain, cheap to operate.

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      Tbh that kinda sounds like the point from the start. The price they give is the base-base. Like, an absolute barebones build. Any color you want as long as it’s grey.

      But making each individual add-on available…individually…is pretty damn sweet. And also making them available after-market…presumably in an easy-to-install method (kinda figure to be scalable it must be, otherwise the build-to-order model would flop at the assembly line), is icing on the cake.

      It sucks that it’s a Bezos initiative, otherwise I’d be yelling to shut up and take my money. A basic-ass EV two-seater that can handle light open loads is exactly what I want. And one that is (seemingly) user-servicable? Hell yeah. AND A FRUNK TO BOOT!

      But if bezos is behind it, it’s instantly sus. More sus than any other billionaire, save for a handful.