• protist@retrofed.com
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    American cheese is just cheddar cheese + sodium citrate. You can make it yourself with cheddar cheese, lemon juice, and baking soda. The sodium citrate acts as an emulsifier, which prevents the cheese from separating when it melts. You can make some really high-quality American cheese, but since this is America, we have agro-businesses creating the cheapest, filler-filled shit possible

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      Yeah, I get that it’s funny to rag on all things American and all, but American cheese is still cheese, in the same sense that a sausage is still meat. It’s been processed, yes, but aside from some additives the stuff that comes out is the same stuff that went in.

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        By the American government’s own definition most of it legally cannot be called cheese. Instead its “IMITATION PASTEURIZED PROCESS CHEESE FOOD” or something similar.

        Even the stuff that can be labeled cheese only has to be 51% cheese, and 49% can be something else.

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          Then it’s not American cheese, is it? It’s imitation cheese food. The package in that photo doesn’t even claim so, it just calls itself “singles.” I’m aware there’s a race to the bottom to make the cheapest shittiest substitute for just about anything in the US, but that’s not the discussion.

          The discussion is something being American cheese doesn’t automatically mean it’s not cheese. Going back to my own analogy, you could argue the same about sausage if you held up a picture of sausage-style meat type food.

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        Best part is when those people think we don’t have access to any other cheese, the ignorance is something else

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      IIRC, “American” is a technical term of art referring to this process, so theoretically one could have American French cheese and so on.

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        I’ve made american cheese out of parmigiano reggiano. Technically, it’s not just cheese and sodium citrate; you also need extra water depending on how dry the cheese is. It’s a good way to add flavor because you can use stock, or beer, or mountain dew, or whatever.

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          It’s a good way to add flavor because you can use stock,

          I see

          or beer,

          Hm. Interesting

          or mountain dew

          *rebel-base alarms go off, personnel evacuating*

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      According to wikipedia:

      A mix of ingredients that must include at least 51% cheese (such as a traditionally made cheddar or Colby) is ground, combined with emulsifying agents and other ingredients that may total up to 49%

      At least it’s mostly cheese. Probably. Good old 'Murica never fails to underwhelm.

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        The stuff you get at a restaurant is frequently 100% actual cheese + emulsifier. Even Dairy Queen. The stuff in a grocery store is hit or miss, though. Kraft Singles for example cannot even legally call themselves American Cheese. They are a “Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product”. Always check the small print on the label for “American Cheese” that’s on its own.

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      That’s my secret for cheese sauces that don’t break. I make the sauce and throw in the tiniest bit of sodium citrate. I’m talking 1/4 tsp per quart of sauce. If you can’t find the pure stuff, a single slice of American cheese produces the same effect.

      I’ve made cheese sauce out of cheese that shouldn’t be used for cheese sauce, like romano, and feta, to make absolutely divine sauces that don’t break even when refrigerated.

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          It depends on the area. I’ve never had issues finding it in larger cities, but some of the small towns I’ve lived in and visited didn’t seem to carry anything but the basics.

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    The burger was not an import from Germany, rather, many ground meat products were referred to by a German city name, Wiener (Wein being Vienna), Frankfurter (Frankfurt), Berliner ( US president John F Kennedy), ECT

    So when they made a sandwich using a style of ground beef introduced by immigrants from Hamburg it got called a “hamburger”, but the practice of frying a ground beef patty and making a sandwich out of it is not from hamburg.

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        The style of ground meat certainly was, but, there are no records or references to it being cooked as a patty and served as a sandwich in Hamburg.

        The first references and evidence we have for it absolutely come from the US, wether it be menus, mentions in news papers, or other textual evidence.

        Lots of different claims as to who did it first, but who ever it was, all the historical evidence shows that the concept originated in the US. Probably none of the people who claim to have invented it actually did, but, we do have records from the time that show the concept spreading between diners along the east coast.

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    This is immediately and indelibly part of my worldview. Blocking and hiding any contrary comments

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      I mean, it’s called Kraft cheese. Does that sound American to you? No! Thats the German word for power. What kind of power? Well you won’t hear me saying it’s nuclear power, but the coincidence is too big.

      (Agreed, you shouldn’t listen to the denialists)

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      Same; but I also hate the taste of American cheese-product with a complete passion. I prefer a pure cheese, in any context.