• Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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      Morally wrong? No.

      Is it not? I’m not religious, but I still find it morally wrong to have sex with something that didn’t consent to it.

      Whether the animal is alive or dead, it isn’t able to consent. And since the animal cannot consent, it is therefore rape, making it morally wrong.

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        I cannot fucking believe I’m going to participate here…

        … but when you’re talking to someone about organ donation, you’d typically say something like “You can’t take them with you. That isn’t you anymore. You’re dead. It’s just meat now.”

        … and that’s as much as I’m going to say because gross

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          But this is actually why we decide whether or not we participate in postmortem organ donation while we’re alive - we make the conscious decision ahead of time. Which is still then consistent with the consent argument

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            So then if I consent to someone fucking my corpse after I’m gone, it becomes morally OK for them to do it.

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        but I still find it morally wrong to have sex with something that didn’t consent to it.

        That makes it immoral in your framework. But you can simply construct one that doesn’t require consent, then it wouldn’t be wrong.

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          Sure, but I can also construct a moral framework in which it’s ok for me to murder anyone I don’t like because my not-mental-illness-sky-daddy said so.

          Moral relativism is bullshit and can be used to justify anything.

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            Exactly, you can construct what ever moral framework you want to, sky daddy or not.

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        The idea that you’re morally obligated to maximize your own health to minimize your burden on society usually doesn’t stand up well to follow up questions.

        Realistically, the societal health costs of being obese would be statistically higher than fucking roadkill. I think most people would find themselves pausing before suggesting to an obese person that thier obesity is more morally problematic than fucking roadkill.

        There is something to health of an individual in a society and morality, it’s pretty hard for me to ignore that intuition. I just don’t know a real formulation which doesn’t introduce more issues to a system of morality than it resolves? Curious if anyone had one.