• ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca
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    Number of times trans people knocked on my door to convincing me or my children into questioning my gender and changing it and my views on the topic, vs the number of religious people knock on my door to try to convince me that I’m living a life of sin, that my values are shit and that I’ll burn in hell unless I convert to their religion.

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      Too many people gloss over the fact how insane it is that some people genuinely believe non-believers burn forever in a magic post death torture world. Like how can someone think that while talking with someone, and be like, aw sucks for them, glad I submit to this ancient chain email creepypasta.

      It still baffles me when I realize someone thinks like that.

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    You’re only considering the diseases that God didn’t prevent from existing in the first place. You can’t expect him to stop all the potential diseases, can you?? He’s not Superman!

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    Yes, but…what about bringing back eradicated diseases with anti-vaxxing? Ain’t that a miracle.

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    I prayed for god to eradicate or decimate those diseases, and he in his infinite wisdom created scientists to do so.

    Checkmate atheists.

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      That’s what I don’t understand about creationists. If you believe god made everything, what’s wrong with believing God used evolution to do it? If the answer is “take the Bible literally”, well that doesn’t work because of all the shit in the Bible that they choose to ignore.

      The premise of religion is designed to be bullet proof: god requires faith, don’t test god. It’s required that you have to believe it without proof. Why add things that are so far out there like “the devil/god made fossils as a trick to test your faith”?

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    I grew up in the church, they will tell you that since a human(s) eradicated a disease, it was clearly god that worked through them. They always have a workaround bullshit answer

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      Given that that were true; their god also created the disease and is responsible for all the suffering. Their god is still at a net negative.

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      I mean if we accept the hypothesis that God exists, and that he created humans, he created them with a reason.

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        Sure, but the logic reveals literally nothing. I can create an entire Sims world for the sole reason to see if the “turn pink clothing in to green clothing” mod works. Does the fact that their existence had a reason actually mean a damn thing?

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          But didn’t he create it all for us though? Which then becomes a good excuse for us to consume it all.

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            I mean, we’re supposed to be stewards according to the teachings, but all those dumbass children hear is, “hey this is yours …” and just kinda space off the rest of everything said…

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        No rationale argument works on the irrational. The goal is to plant the seeds of rational thought. To appeal to people who aren’t completely gone, yet. The meme works perfectly fine.

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          see, the thing is, they are not irrational. their logic (god works through humans) is completely self-consistent, they are just basing their logic on a different set of fundamentals than us. you can say that they are not scientific, you then would be completely correct. but they are not irrational, and that’s the difficult part of changing people’s mind.

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    Had a buddy mention that his friend has cancer and was talking about “I don’t think this doctor is good for me I’m thinking about switching to this other one” and he stopped her and said

    “Well when are you going to give it to the real doctor. Jesus?” And went on to say basically don’t even worry about it or explore other doctors just put it all in gods hands!

    I fucking hate religion.

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    1. Thought
    2. Empathy
    3. Compassion
    4. Humanity
    5. Caring
    6. Not abusing other people
    7. Not raping children
    8. Loving thy neighbor
    9. Not murdering people who believe something else
    10. Letting people be who they are unmolested
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      Ethics exist independently of any deities even if they did exist.

      If ethics didn’t exist separately, and God is actually the source of good, then we would have a lot of logical paradoxes to solve.

      For instance, let’s assume God is who defines goodness and educates us on it, and goodness does not exist without God.

      Thus, we recognize we don’t have inherent ability to define what’s good or bad. But that also means we can’t prove God is good, because we already recognized only God can define what’s good.

      I might have butchered the logical fallacy a bit, logic is hard, but I remember it roughly being stated this way.

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    I’m too tired to be mad about this or the changes that will happen to remind people of how important science is…

    But I can always see in my minds eye, some future leader saying. “There’s no way we could have known.”

    And that keeps me at a simmer.

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    To be fair, you wouldn’t know the diseases that are eradicated by prayer since they’re stripped from our timeline when looking backwards.

    There could be dozens of them!