It’s also annoying when Europeans swap the comma and decimal on currency amounts too, especially given that you don’t do that when writing sentences. Few things more infuriating than seeing an amount written out like 2.999,95€! Where are your manners!?
I see, that’s understandable. We all have pet-peeves. Mine is the date format in the US that has spread month-day-year. Most of Europe is day-month-year and it’s very confusing when people start adopting US formats because they watch so much stuff from the US.
IMO any date standard other than ISO 8601 is wrong too. Year-Month-Date makes the most sense from a chronological standpoint. Also makes sorting files by date easier.
That used to be what letters were expected to have in Germany but because nobody actually stuck to that law they made it optional, instead also allowing the much more common dd.mm.yyyy which is almost as acceptable in my opinion.
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Wish everyone just followed the ISO norm. It dictates that you can either use a period or a comma as decimal separator. And for the thousands separator, just use a space.
We use, if needed, apostrophes or upticks. 2’999,95. No danger of messing up between . and , that way.
Also let’s just wait until that person learns that not every country separates into blocks of 3 and how many options of mixing and matching there are in use.
“It’s so infuriating when people communicate in ways I’m not used to!”
Doesn’t sound great.
According to ISO 80000-1, the decimal separator can either be a period or a comma, and no preference is given to either. Many American software systems support both (including the software I work on). It’s really quite normal and mundane.
Well like I said to the other person, it’s not a “I think the US is superior” thing; very much the opposite. I simply have autism. (ADHD too but that’s not relevant here.)
One of my favorite things about Lemmy is how many of us are in the autism/ADHD neurotribe, or at least have an understanding about it. We can read your response and be like, “Oh, okay. Yeah, I get where you’re coming from” and roll along, without the need for senseless hostility.
Just another day, another misinterpretation - we’ve all been there. Carry on.
I’ll give you my 2¢ on this: I like the dollar sign before the number. When I say “3 dollars” I see it as “$3” not “3$” and I don’t see it as “dollars 3” unless I’m telling a riddle.
Just like with American date structure: I’ll say July 26, 2026 and will see it as 07/26/2026.
(But when I put a date in files I go for YYYY/MM/DD format)
(Whoever created these systems had a funny sense of synergy lol)
To me putting it first feels funny. Euro 100, instead of 100 euros. While writing it you need to remember to put the symbol before writing the amount. Funny thing
Now that you pointed it out, this annoys me more than people who put the currency sign after the amount.
Welcome to Europa were we do exactly that, as the placement of the currency symbol is a locale thing not a universal.
Yeah I know, it drives me crazy.
It’s also annoying when Europeans swap the comma and decimal on currency amounts too, especially given that you don’t do that when writing sentences. Few things more infuriating than seeing an amount written out like 2.999,95€! Where are your manners!?
USAian defaultism is always hilarious
I can’t help that I was born here. FWIW I’m not a blind patriot, I just have autism.
I see, that’s understandable. We all have pet-peeves. Mine is the date format in the US that has spread month-day-year. Most of Europe is day-month-year and it’s very confusing when people start adopting US formats because they watch so much stuff from the US.
IMO any date standard other than ISO 8601 is wrong too. Year-Month-Date makes the most sense from a chronological standpoint. Also makes sorting files by date easier.
That used to be what letters were expected to have in Germany but because nobody actually stuck to that law they made it optional, instead also allowing the much more common dd.mm.yyyy which is almost as acceptable in my opinion.
It’s only useful for storing data, in the real world you want to know the day and sometimes the month, is very rae to want to know the year
Something tells me that ISO was created to make programming easier. Time/date stuff on computers are a menace in general.
RFC3339 is also acceptable
It’s not just Americans that use the comma as a spacer and a period for a decimal
Get off our internet if you don’t like it 🇺🇸🔫💪
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
Bloody ignorant loud mouth Americans claiming credit for group projects, as usual.
Yep, we employ people from all over the world.
stares at you in Australian
Where I live we…just use comma. So 2999,95. No reason to add useless separators in the middle, and if we do for clarity sake, we use space (2 999,95).
This is gonna irk you further, isn’t it…? xD
Wish everyone just followed the ISO norm. It dictates that you can either use a period or a comma as decimal separator. And for the thousands separator, just use a space.
Separators aren’t useless; they help greatly in reading large numbers.
Space is what ISO recommends using.
We use, if needed, apostrophes or upticks. 2’999,95. No danger of messing up between . and , that way.
Also let’s just wait until that person learns that not every country separates into blocks of 3 and how many options of mixing and matching there are in use.
I know the Indians have their 2 digit 3 digit thing, who else does interesting groupings ?
“It’s so infuriating when people communicate in ways I’m not used to!”
Doesn’t sound great.
According to ISO 80000-1, the decimal separator can either be a period or a comma, and no preference is given to either. Many American software systems support both (including the software I work on). It’s really quite normal and mundane.
manners? Where is your freedom, as you took that notation (0,000.00) from your british overlords.
Well like I said to the other person, it’s not a “I think the US is superior” thing; very much the opposite. I simply have autism. (ADHD too but that’s not relevant here.)
That’s alright, but “Where are your manners!?” comes off a bit hostile. But in any case, have a nice day.
Don’t worry I’m just being cheeky. I inserted that bit to keep the comment lighthearted.
One of my favorite things about Lemmy is how many of us are in the autism/ADHD neurotribe, or at least have an understanding about it. We can read your response and be like, “Oh, okay. Yeah, I get where you’re coming from” and roll along, without the need for senseless hostility.
Just another day, another misinterpretation - we’ve all been there. Carry on.
People who deviate from the rule that units go after the number drive me batty.
Like what, is the US equivalent of X €/kWh written $ X / kWh or something??? Absolutely disgusting
Wait until they discovers that were i live we use those:
And that what you use depends on who your teacher was XD
Sure, but that doesn’t stop the localities that put it after from being totally wrong and stupid.
but you say “its 15 US Dollar”, and not “its US Dollar 15”? Same with any other unit (which a currency is) “x m, y seconds, z newton”
Speaking things and reading things aren’t 1 to 1 the same.
Listen do you say Dollars 300 ($300) or do you say 300 Dollars (300$)?
I rest my case lol
I’ll give you my 2¢ on this: I like the dollar sign before the number. When I say “3 dollars” I see it as “$3” not “3$” and I don’t see it as “dollars 3” unless I’m telling a riddle.
Just like with American date structure: I’ll say July 26, 2026 and will see it as 07/26/2026.
(But when I put a date in files I go for YYYY/MM/DD format)
(Whoever created these systems had a funny sense of synergy lol)
To me putting it first feels funny. Euro 100, instead of 100 euros. While writing it you need to remember to put the symbol before writing the amount. Funny thing
I dont know why that annoys me. It does annoy me but it shouldn’t because at least it has a logic to it.
£2 Is spoken “two pounds” not “pound two”
Is because with it being before, you get to know that the number is for a currency immediately, instead of finding out it’s a currency afterwards
Yes, I too deal with amounts of money large enough that I can’t see the end when I start reading it!
You bought some RAM recently?
Tried to … it turned out cheaper to just pay someone to strip it out of flock cameras instead
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