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    ok one more joke…

    Linux Video Driver after an update repair starter kit

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    Dishwasher breaks a plate - heck this stupid machine

    Now if I break a plate – oh well, stuff happens

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    Oh man I built my kernel and added some patches and oh boy did I fuck my install. Had to start it over, so annoying. Thankfully I had everything backed up took me an hour to get it all fixed.

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    If Linux is so great, why is nobody still using it? How long have you guys had to make something happen? You’d rather just continue gatekeeping in your small pond. Godspeed.

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      Because humans are creatures of habit, and as long as stuff works for them, even suboptimally, a lot of people aren’t inclined to change their habits, even if it might mean a change would improve their lives. As long as sth is “good enough”, there simply isn’t an incentive for change.

      Also, since there isn’t a huge corporation behind Linux, there is literally no direct advertisement for it, so people who aren’t into tech simply never will get in touch with it.

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      The internet is run by Linux machines. Windows and Mac aren’t hosting that shit, Linux is. Even Microsoft uses Linux for that. France and Germany are switching over after seeing enormous cost savings. Gamers are flocking to it to make their old hardware less terrible to use and distros like bazzite are making it easy. AI data centers are all running on Linux. Not a single one runs windows 11 or windows server, at least not bare metal.

      Windows is most common as an endpoint device that’s not very important and does comparatively little work. It’s a terminal UI at this point.

      Everybody is using it. Literally nothing you use your windows box for would run with out it. Take a seat.

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      Android is Linux… did you know that?

      While Linux isn’t the most used system on desktops, it’s easily the most used OS overall…

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    If I pay 100+ dollars for something I expected to ship with basic drivers. If it’s free, I’m un surprised if and when it rarely doesn’t have the drivers I need

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    Still new, trying Linux Mint Cinnamon. I don’t think I can break it. It’s super user friendly.

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      Mine breaks on its own once I sit down with my food to watch some videos.

      I fucking swear it knows when I’m eating.

      I probably have a faulty CPU, though. I wish there was an easy way to tell (after several flawless RAM tests and two different GPUs),

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        Start dmesg when you’re eating, put it in the corner. You can cancel out murphys law with a watched pot never boils.

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          Thanks, I’ll try that! Does it even save if the PC freezes solid? Because that’s what usually happens.

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            It was a joke, but actually, yeah, it has a good chance.

            When if freezes, whatever was going wrong will likely be all over the dmesg log. as long as it’s just frozen, you’ll likely see what was going on. there’s usually at least some brief inkling before it explodes.

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      I put mint on My laptop at work and it took 3 months for anyone to ask me about it. My laptop is frequently used by 5 other people with zero Linux experience lol, and barely any real PC experience.

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        I put mint on my elderly moms pc. Basically no difference for her. Also less maintenance and issues, since all she does is use the browser, Libre Office writer and print.

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          That’s awesome lol, if she can manage so can anyone else.

          This might be the year lol

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    Because:

    1. You pay for windows (“supposed to pay” atleast)
    2. You cant be mad at a community effort. Don’t like it? Fork it or help fix it.
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      Indeed, last time I paid for windows was like windows 7. Only free upgrades since then.

      But fixing a bug is not as simple as “fork it or help fix it”, those are by far the most complicated options that only a tiny faction of users (can) take.

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        “help fix it” can be opening a good issue with instructions on how to recreate and details, it can be testing new features and fixes, or even paying someone some money to fix it for you and contribute to upstream. (Gitcoin, upwork etc.)

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    Eh, not always. For months after I started using Bazzite, Dolphin’s Windows EXE thumbnailer didn’t work. Should it have worked? Yeah. Why didn’t it? Who fucking knows. Did it get fixed? Yes. How did it get fixed? New Plasma version I guess.

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      But you could find out all of those things by looking for the code and the PR that fixed it. You could also have debugged it, since source code is available. Not so on windows generally.

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      Thats the other thing: a glaring issue or bug with linux is likely to be fixed within a few days.

      Ive had issues with microsoft in 2012 that still exist today

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    Linux Inc. does not spend billions of dollars ensuring you have no options but Linux.

    It also doesn’t exist, so that helps too.

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    Definitely true when learning Linux, but to be fair, things do break on their own. Example: just yesterday I updated fedora and it broke my network connections for my vms. I certainly didn’t do that, and it seems to be a repeating issue.

    But you wanna know what the difference is?

    1. A 30 second web search identified the problem and a quick edit of the network.conf text file fixed the issue.
    2. even if I couldn’t fix it, I could very easily roll the updates back
    3. this issue will get fixed for good and won’t still be lingering around for 10 years

    Compare that to me updating win11 on a faster more capable computer a couple weeks ago:

    1. It broke like a bazillion things, well documented on the internet, no solutions other than “we’ll maybe fix that someday”
    2. the computer rebooted THREE times! 3! I’ve seen two-three was a new one
    3. it took 40 minutes on a 32 core threadripper, 64gb ram, plenty of free hard drive space, and a 4090 card. No, it wasn’t years of updates, and it wasn’t a major version update. It was maybe 1.5 months since last update.

    Linux is great, not perfect, but great with great communities.

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      honestly wth is windows update even doing? takes my thinkpad from 2020 about 30 min to recompile my ENTIRE nixos setup from scratch. FROM SCRATCH, freshly formatted drive, 30 minites later an entirely functional DE with all apps i need installed.

      How does windows manage to take longer, on better hardware, with something that should by all account be an easier cpu task? im baffled

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        100% agree. The windows fanbois always come out in force and defend Microsoft, they act like the abused in bad marriages defending their dirtbag husband who beats them /shrug

        It’s not a problem with my computer. I didn’t do anything “wrong”. I clean installed win 11 on its own hard drive because 1) I own a retail copy and 2) my daughter is taking the lsat test and it requires windows or macOS. The install took hours. And the part that slowed it down was the update process. Ok no big deal, it’s a new install, i mean fedora fresh installs in like 15 minutes (and most of that is me clicking buttons), but whatever. So that’s it, it’s just a clean install of win11. Every month or so, I boot it up and hit the update button. It’s painful, every time. Yes I get it’s designed to slow roll in the background but come on - if I open up settings -> windows update and hit the update now button - then get to work already. It’s always a 20+ minute process. This last one was exceptionally long, but you get my point.

        And these updates are always terrible, stuff breaks right away. After the last update the lock screen was all Asian characters. The rest of the OS was fine, just the lock screen changed. Dafuq? The recycle bin contents were all like hash file names. A year or two ago an update on my wife’s laptop wouldn’t proceed because the recovery partition that win11 itself created during install was too small. All other further updates wouldn’t go either because that one was stuck. Like grandma is going to resize partitions - granny’s computer is heading towards bot ville.

        Anyways ya, windows sucks big hairy donkey balls now. 50% of that suckage comes from windows update. The other 50% comes from them shoving poo in your face every chance it gets.

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      Update your Windows PC weekly and reboot once a week and that will resolve 90% or more of your issues. Updates are frequent, delaying the install can cause several problems. 1.5 months since last update is regularly an issue even in the enterprise space.

      Not saying that is acceptable to most people. But best practice is to allow updates and to apply them at least once a week.

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        Microsoft only ships updates once a month. Did you fall into a time hole from 2001?

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          Microsoft does only once a month sure, but OEM vendors push firmware, drivers, and BIOS updates through Windows update whenever they want. Windows is not the only thing that requires updating.

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          I guess it may be smaller updates like .NET and some drivers. .NET and most of the other smaller updates shouldn’t even need restarting, they just eat your CPU and take ages because Microsoft is silently compiling them in the background on your computer.

          Nowadays, Microsoft Defender’s definitions are, for some reason, also shipped through Microsoft Update. You can get those daily or every few days, but they’re fast and won’t affect your system in any way.

          Drivers usually shouldn’t be common after installing the first batch, so I doubt you’d get a lot of those in 1.5 months.

          Indeed, Microsoft only ships system updates on patch tuesday, the second tuesday of the month.

          So this user could only have had a max of 2 system updates, 1-2 driver updates maybe (unlikely, though), and then possibly another 1-2 .NET updates. If the user has Defender activated, add a definitions update. Keep in mind that this is basically worst case scenario. Those updates should never cause issues, be that slow, or require 3 reboots.

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      this issue will get fixed for good and won’t still be lingering around for 10 years

      idk microsoft has given me those damn expectations

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      There is no fixing microsoft

      But there is. People create their own fixes, configurations and utilities all the time.

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        By reverse engineering black box shit, then providing binaries everyone is just supposed to trust don’t also contain malware?

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          And those binaries are to fix the black box shit that is subject to alteration at any time, rendering them useless.

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          Yeah, because they usually don’t. One reason I started using Linux was that I started caring more about security. However, Windows tweaking apps never burned me.

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    One of the reasons I love Linux, actually.

    Nobody to blame but myself, so let’s start figuring this shit out I guess

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      You can dig as deep as you care to, all the way down to source code. And if you can’t read code, you can learn to. If you don’t want to spend the time, that’s completely reasonable. But it’s your choice.