facts are uncivil now?
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
idk, lemmy.ml mod account
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
community ban, removed comments
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
above
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
above
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
it’s just pointing out that the soviet union was not a perfectly fair socialist democracy as they think it was, I’d appreciate an unban
yeah, you’re not suspicious at all
The USSR existed for a while after Stalin and Beria. They’ve been dead for 75 years.
It existed before them too. Hell, the entire space race happened after.
But then again if “perfectly fair socialist democracy” is being matched against a “perfectly fair capitalist democracy” then sure. It’s as absurd to apply that concept to the USSR as it would be to the USA.
But mostly people don’t view the USSR as a boogeyman anymore, so they don’t need or care for reinforcing the old Epstein class narratives.
So maybe we can all pretend it is innocent, but what you linked here just looks like the telltale sign of well known agitators on the Fediverse. Like, I am sure you felt like you were championing truth or something, but you just made posts routinely made common by the kind of folks here that actually support ICE and Epstein.
Entirely deserved. You’re completely full of shit and they correctly identified and removed you for it and now you’re big mad
Lol this one has deranged post history
Disagreeing with morons isn’t “deranged” you’re just butthurt like the rest of your witless ilk
What I’m seeing here is theoretically if I don’t disengage from you there will come a point where you flip out and and reply to every comment in this post with “I know you are but what am I”. As funny as that would be I don’t actually like lolcowism as a practice so I’m disengaging now, have a great weekend doing… This
What you’re seeing is that I won’t waste my time on thoughtful bespoke comments for your stupid ass, if you want more then earn it halfwit
I dunno, one day old account and going at it like that? It makes me wonder if this was just rage baiting.
Any reason why that was your only activity other than this post?
Just made this acc and found that post
Yeah, you created an account on .dbzer0, and the first thing you did was comment on !Memes@lemmy.ml and !Linuxsucks@lemmy.world. Then, after the ban, you posted here. Not suspicious at all. BPR
.ml is run by tankies; any criticism of the Soviet Union isn’t going to be met positively.
There’s plenty of criticism there, although there are also some total Glazers.
What they don’t allow is thoughtless extreme criticism that isn’t based on the material world. In that very thread there are people talking about how the soviet Union declined in its later years.
If you got to lemmy.ml and make some post about the failures of leadership leading to recriminalising lgbt love and culture people will willingly discuss it. Or how there were flaws in their women’s lib attempts that lead to pay disparities and so on.
What they tend to ban is stuff like this where someone just says “instance of terrible thing, therefore whole project bad and doomed” which is a ridiculous and frustrating way to analyse anything.
If you got to lemmy.ml and make some post about the failures of leadership leading to recriminalising lgbt love and culture people will willingly discuss it. Or how there were flaws in their women’s lib attempts that lead to pay disparities and so on.
Not really my experience. I think its up to the mods mood that day or if they read you as “a good socialist” thats allowed to have critiques or as a “bad socialist” that somehow isnt allowed to have critiques.
It’s not that hard just be good faith
Oh yeah its easy. Thats means its not a skill issue or communictaion problem for them, its just not what they want to do.
To a certain extent I agree that you have to consider the source. Someone saying “NYT sucks” means something very different when it comes from a leftist or a magat. But yeah, tankies in general are annoying. Most of them won’t even admit NK is terrible, and believing that means you’re corrupted by western propaganda. Still waiting for one of them to move to such a glorious paradise country…
Your point is that one person inside soviet union was a rapist, so soviet union was a rapist country? Idk man, sounds like a stupid point to me.
See, United Epstein States is a country run by lots of pedorapists and it doesnt look like you are calling this country rapist?
Edit: just saw your post history. Good riddance
I mean if one of the triumvirate endorsed by Stalin was a rapist, and if his rapes were supported by Stalin, the country is a rapist country
and the us is a rapist country too
This is what you do for fun on the weekends?
Tell us more about your feminist critiques of the state.
Soooo… what level of rape and abuse would you consider non-insane? You know… in comparison to the one guy in the USSR you refer to?
PTB
Rape is good when socialists do it, apparently.
Curious what the ones removed but not in the mod log are 🤔
actual evidence and citations of Beria’s atrocities. Oh and yeah I criticized north korea in another thread and there’s stuff removed from that as well
Guessing a lot more than that if you’re going
saying rape is bad is fascism
yeah I was told I had pro-capitalist and pro-fascist views for criticizing the supreme leader
This person is trolling you. The way .ml do threads is they sealion you into cringe prolonged debates and then invent talking points to pin on you. Enable instance suffixes on your app so you can just know who you’re talking to. And don’t trust people who go “explain to me, explain to meee”. That’s not a thing human adults do.
Cool story
When someone tries the sealioning trick, the correct response is always - “I think this would be more productive if you elucidate on why you feel this point needs further exploration.”
We had an academic who spent a lot of time sealioning in our department; this is how we dealt with him.
Maybe. At that point I’m usually just no longer interested in interacting. I suppose in academics it makes sense but I find any sort of competitive discussion on internet pretty pathetic. Especially when it’s about things like personally held beliefs, which is kind of a weird currency to be making bets with. And usually you’re not going to convince a random internet person to respect anything they don’t already hold by default because they are playing out a personal fantasy of some kind. “Changing my mind when presented with compelling info” isn’t really a fantasy master-debate bros really have.
Obviously there’s exceptions but most people aren’t online doing this “joust with me in front of a crowd” bit because they have the social skills to interact with strangers irl.
I honestly wasn’t. Based on how many that were removed by mods and not in the mod log really seems like the comments in the log weren’t the worst removed and ops responses haven’t suggested otherwise
I’ve seen their modlog, yeah there’s bad actors but .ml are clearly playing fuckfuck games. Sorry for saying you were trolling. I haven’t looked at op’s comment history but it seems like this is always the thing we tell new people and it’s pretty gaslight-yI’ve completely misread this entire post and mischaractarized you. I’m sorry.
I’ve seen too many people go ape shit against ml for their terrible comments since it’s such a common occurrence of them doing it then coming here to complain sadly
But beria wasn’t ever that?
