Not medical advice, but a suggestion of easy things to ask your doctor to check for if you have insomnia, and inexpensive to address if they are the culprit: taking taking B12 and D supplements gave me (back?) my ability to sleep. I’ve never slept better in my life.
i do most of those things, and i will also add dont smoke, dont drink, and take estrogen. but you can pry sugar from my cold dead hands. whats the point of living a long time and staying young if you cant even enjoy yourself?
Sugar is unkind to you in so many ways. Ignoring it’s negative impact eventually catches up with most people, some worse than others.
I thought all the fuss about it and carbs was silly and over-stated myself, but my thoughts and feeling didn’t change the consequences. I’ve learned better now but wish I could go back in time and tell myself what was coming so I could change my behavior sooner.
Also not sure what the connection is there. Sugar is bad for you if you’re diabetic, but doesn’t itself directly lead to ill health - the effect is via obesity.
I feel you there. I’ve had periods of time where motivation in general was easier and thus I could more easily feel up to taking a walk, and that almost always made me feel better. It truly sucks when you don’t feel able to find the motivation. And I’m not trying to make it sound easy, but if you force yourself on occasion to do small exercises like walking, you’re more likely to find your way back to the place when you’re automatically motivated.
This false narrative that you’re helpless to try when depressed needs to end, its needlessly self limiting. The only reason my life is good now is because I took steps I had to that i didnt want to. People can encourage others and we can recognise how difficult it is at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive.
I got out of severe depression by trying and keeping at it to do these things I didn’t even believe could help me anymore. Surprise, they did. Yes it took long and was hard. But it is possible to do even a little bit.
The part telling me I can’t do it and saying I shouldn’t even try cus I won’t do it anyways, that is part of the depression too. It is self sustaining.
In my mind the trick that worked was: if everything is shit no matter what, if I hate every second anyways no matter what I do, if nothing will change how miserable I am, then taking a short walk won’t change anything for the worse either, not to any significant degree anyways.
That way bit by bit my absolute apathy tricked itself into doing things because it didn’t matter either way. And slowly shit got tiny bits better.
I’ve had major depressive for most of my adult life. No rhyme or reason for it, just shit brain chemistry. Finding the right medication and walking or cycling really helps.
For me, Desvenlafaxine was the right meds for me, your mileage will almost certainly vary though.
My depression, gives me insomnia. My insomnia gives me anxiety and worsens my depression. Be your own best friend and go easy on yourself. You wouldn’t let others talk to your friends like you talk to yourself. On good days, make sure you do all those things. On days you don’t feel like, push to do as many as you can and know it’s ok if you don’t. On bad days, acknowledge your wins of getting out of bed and brushing your teeth if that’s all you could accomplish. You don’t have to be perfect. You just have to keep going and get back to it.
Been there. And, my physical health precludes it sometimes too.
Nothing I can say will help, but you ain’t alone, you aren’t the only one, and if you ever do have a day when you can do that kind of self care, don’t beat yourself up if/when you have the next one where you can’t.
We all gotta get by as best we can, and nobody gets out alive.
Action precedes motivation. If you wait to be motivated, actions won’t happen. Even if it’s starting small like brushing your teeth, or any act of self care or hygiene that makes you feel better physically
PSA: if you want to age well:
wear sunscreen
eat fruits and veg, avoid sugar as much as you can
do some form of cardio(walking is perfectly fine, you just want to get your heart going)
Do some form of resistance training.(calisthenics, lift a litre bottle)
Sleep around 7 to 8 hrs
You’ll not only be the hottest 60 or 70 year old, you’re quality of life won’t degrade much.
Not medical advice, but a suggestion of easy things to ask your doctor to check for if you have insomnia, and inexpensive to address if they are the culprit: taking taking B12 and D supplements gave me (back?) my ability to sleep. I’ve never slept better in my life.
i do most of those things, and i will also add dont smoke, dont drink, and take estrogen. but you can pry sugar from my cold dead hands. whats the point of living a long time and staying young if you cant even enjoy yourself?
Sugar is unkind to you in so many ways. Ignoring it’s negative impact eventually catches up with most people, some worse than others.
I thought all the fuss about it and carbs was silly and over-stated myself, but my thoughts and feeling didn’t change the consequences. I’ve learned better now but wish I could go back in time and tell myself what was coming so I could change my behavior sooner.
Also not sure what the connection is there. Sugar is bad for you if you’re diabetic, but doesn’t itself directly lead to ill health - the effect is via obesity.
My mental health is too poor to be able to do any of those.
I feel you there. I’ve had periods of time where motivation in general was easier and thus I could more easily feel up to taking a walk, and that almost always made me feel better. It truly sucks when you don’t feel able to find the motivation. And I’m not trying to make it sound easy, but if you force yourself on occasion to do small exercises like walking, you’re more likely to find your way back to the place when you’re automatically motivated.
Just gotta start. Its hard I know but once you go, its easier.
Thank you
“Have you tried not being depressed?”
One of my favourite one-off characters from any show
This false narrative that you’re helpless to try when depressed needs to end, its needlessly self limiting. The only reason my life is good now is because I took steps I had to that i didnt want to. People can encourage others and we can recognise how difficult it is at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive.
I got out of severe depression by trying and keeping at it to do these things I didn’t even believe could help me anymore. Surprise, they did. Yes it took long and was hard. But it is possible to do even a little bit.
The part telling me I can’t do it and saying I shouldn’t even try cus I won’t do it anyways, that is part of the depression too. It is self sustaining.
In my mind the trick that worked was: if everything is shit no matter what, if I hate every second anyways no matter what I do, if nothing will change how miserable I am, then taking a short walk won’t change anything for the worse either, not to any significant degree anyways.
That way bit by bit my absolute apathy tricked itself into doing things because it didn’t matter either way. And slowly shit got tiny bits better.
Believe me, I know what it’s like. But taking baby steps can help
Walking really helps my mental health. To be fair I live near the beach so it very relaxing.
I’ve had major depressive for most of my adult life. No rhyme or reason for it, just shit brain chemistry. Finding the right medication and walking or cycling really helps.
For me, Desvenlafaxine was the right meds for me, your mileage will almost certainly vary though.
My depression, gives me insomnia. My insomnia gives me anxiety and worsens my depression. Be your own best friend and go easy on yourself. You wouldn’t let others talk to your friends like you talk to yourself. On good days, make sure you do all those things. On days you don’t feel like, push to do as many as you can and know it’s ok if you don’t. On bad days, acknowledge your wins of getting out of bed and brushing your teeth if that’s all you could accomplish. You don’t have to be perfect. You just have to keep going and get back to it.
Oof, I don’t have friends. The friends I did have years ago were terrible, though, I don’t miss them.
Been there. And, my physical health precludes it sometimes too.
Nothing I can say will help, but you ain’t alone, you aren’t the only one, and if you ever do have a day when you can do that kind of self care, don’t beat yourself up if/when you have the next one where you can’t.
We all gotta get by as best we can, and nobody gets out alive.
Action precedes motivation. If you wait to be motivated, actions won’t happen. Even if it’s starting small like brushing your teeth, or any act of self care or hygiene that makes you feel better physically