Which is kind of wild, because I don’t know if a steak has ever looked better on film than the cut shown in this scene. I understand that sentiment may not hold true for folks on vegetarian or vegan diets based on ethical grounds, but that may as well be the Platonic ideal of “fancy steak”.
There was a brand called Meati that made steaks out of mycelium that were so goddamn good. Closest to the real thing I’ve had so far. Unfortunately some shady financial shenanigans cost them their production plant. There’s a new owner trying to get them up and running again though so fingers crossed there.
Every time I visited the twin cities I’d stop by their shop and stock up on a bunch of stuff. Their vegan BBQ ribs and vegan chorizo were so good. I heard that their store burned down a few years ago, but I didn’t realize they kept their online shop open!
Yea, it’s funny because when I heard about them, I heard they made a cookbook after closing down. Like Miyoko’s new books. That it was just a local shop.
I only found the site from looking for the cookbook and found out they are still running and ship now.
He’s vegetarian not vegan. It’s incredibly hard to be a vegan in korea, but it’s very easy to be a vegetarian. The vast majority of halmeoni cooking your food over there basically equivocate vegetarianism and vegan to be the same thing. A lot of traditional foods have hidden animal products in it like shrimp paste for seasoning.
I once tried talking to my like 85 year old Korean granny about it and she strongly explained to me that things like krill were more like plants than animals, which in some ways is kinda true.
Restrictive Asian diets don’t sort neatly into western buckets.
By your definition, most practicing ‘vegetarian’ Buddhists are omnivores because of oyster sauce, yet they eat far less animal products than the average western vegetarian due to the low prevalence of dairy products.
Jains, for example, can drink milk and eat butter and ghee, but cannot eat root vegetables, fungi, and fermented foods, while the opposite is true for veganism.
So what do you call people who are vegetarian except for 1% of their diet? I would find it disengenuous to equate that to a regular omnivore diet.
Again, it’s kinda weird. I would say it’s fairly easy to be vegetarian since there’s a cultural understanding of vegetarians due to the cultural/religious practices of Buddhist monks.
For one, they typically have more bland foods, and typically live in the mountainous regions where there’s less access to sea food. And again, what a lot of east Asian people consider meat varies from the western nomenclature.
Where instead of basing the ethical delineation on a scientific taxonomy, it’s based more on whether something possesses a soul/conscious. If we examine the issue through that lens it can make sense that an invertebrate like a krill or even coral are closer to plants than mammals.
To be used in omega 3 supplements and fish farming. At the same time one can cut both by using omega 3 DHA & EPA supplements based on algae. Doing it for 7 years now. Also the less krill, the less whales and the less whales, the less flourishing ocean eco systems, because of the whale poop loop and whale falls.
I think this is a very arbitrary line to draw, and I honestly don’t think it’s backed up by science. Octopuses may outperform pigs and cows at some tasks, but how do you measure their overall intelligence in a way that’s comparable?
I eat smart things only to get smarter. You are what you eat after all. Octoponi, Chimpansessies, Peeps, Dolphones, etc. Ant too since I want hive mind. My brain grows.
Fun fact: The actor in this scene is vegetarian, so they used mushrooms instead of steak
Which is kind of wild, because I don’t know if a steak has ever looked better on film than the cut shown in this scene. I understand that sentiment may not hold true for folks on vegetarian or vegan diets based on ethical grounds, but that may as well be the Platonic ideal of “fancy steak”.
Visually, yes.
However I’ve not met a mushroom that tastes and feels like beef. Impossible burgers get close but it’s far from a steak.
I make mushroom steak from lions mane. My meat eater friends say its a pretty damn good substitute
Have you tried the
impossibleBeyond steak? Highly recommendI’ve never had Impossible Steak. Do you like Beyond? I’ve noticed some people like one or the other.
Have you tried Lions Mane steak?
https://youtu.be/oaARq5qw3jk
Herbivorous Butcher is really good too and they have a cookbook to make your own.
https://www.theherbivorousbutcher.com/
There was a brand called Meati that made steaks out of mycelium that were so goddamn good. Closest to the real thing I’ve had so far. Unfortunately some shady financial shenanigans cost them their production plant. There’s a new owner trying to get them up and running again though so fingers crossed there.
I used to see their billboard a lot when I worked in Downtown Denver. Never got to try it.
Oh shoot my bad I actually meant beyond steak- I kinda hate the taste of everything Impossible makes lol
Whooaa, cool! I haven’t but I definitely need to; thanks for sharing!
Every time I visited the twin cities I’d stop by their shop and stock up on a bunch of stuff. Their vegan BBQ ribs and vegan chorizo were so good. I heard that their store burned down a few years ago, but I didn’t realize they kept their online shop open!
Yea, it’s funny because when I heard about them, I heard they made a cookbook after closing down. Like Miyoko’s new books. That it was just a local shop.
I only found the site from looking for the cookbook and found out they are still running and ship now.
Funner fact: the actor in the original Oldboy is also vegan, but he still ate that live octopus.
He’s vegetarian not vegan. It’s incredibly hard to be a vegan in korea, but it’s very easy to be a vegetarian. The vast majority of halmeoni cooking your food over there basically equivocate vegetarianism and vegan to be the same thing. A lot of traditional foods have hidden animal products in it like shrimp paste for seasoning.
I once tried talking to my like 85 year old Korean granny about it and she strongly explained to me that things like krill were more like plants than animals, which in some ways is kinda true.
Sounds like it’s easy to be a pescatarian, but not actually a vegetarian.
Restrictive Asian diets don’t sort neatly into western buckets.
By your definition, most practicing ‘vegetarian’ Buddhists are omnivores because of oyster sauce, yet they eat far less animal products than the average western vegetarian due to the low prevalence of dairy products.
Jains, for example, can drink milk and eat butter and ghee, but cannot eat root vegetables, fungi, and fermented foods, while the opposite is true for veganism.
So what do you call people who are vegetarian except for 1% of their diet? I would find it disengenuous to equate that to a regular omnivore diet.
Again, it’s kinda weird. I would say it’s fairly easy to be vegetarian since there’s a cultural understanding of vegetarians due to the cultural/religious practices of Buddhist monks.
For one, they typically have more bland foods, and typically live in the mountainous regions where there’s less access to sea food. And again, what a lot of east Asian people consider meat varies from the western nomenclature.
Where instead of basing the ethical delineation on a scientific taxonomy, it’s based more on whether something possesses a soul/conscious. If we examine the issue through that lens it can make sense that an invertebrate like a krill or even coral are closer to plants than mammals.
So nothing, basically.
TIL 200k tons of krill are harvested each year.
To be used in omega 3 supplements and fish farming. At the same time one can cut both by using omega 3 DHA & EPA supplements based on algae. Doing it for 7 years now. Also the less krill, the less whales and the less whales, the less flourishing ocean eco systems, because of the whale poop loop and whale falls.
Same in Japan… it’s so hard to be vegan.
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Ahhh, okay. I thought I had read he was vegan, maybe I misremembered or maybe the article was wrong.
May have been the article if it was originally from a Korean source. Like I said they tend to use vegan and vegetarian interchangeably a lot.
That’s slightly less fun. I’ll eat a pig or a chicken or a cow but octopodes are too smart for me to eat.
I think this is a very arbitrary line to draw, and I honestly don’t think it’s backed up by science. Octopuses may outperform pigs and cows at some tasks, but how do you measure their overall intelligence in a way that’s comparable?
I eat smart things only to get smarter. You are what you eat after all. Octoponi, Chimpansessies, Peeps, Dolphones, etc. Ant too since I want hive mind. My brain grows.
Okay Sylar…
Same. cephalopods in general for me. I still feel bad about eating meat otherwise but I can’t even think about eating octopus
I stopped eating them recently for that reason.
Pigs are smarter than dogs, that’s what makes em taste so good!
Just realised looking at this that it’s the same actor as Ralph from The Sopranos. I’ve watched both recently too!
But who plays Cypher in the Matrix in The Sopranos universe?
Ralphie
TIL!!!
And Ralph’s wig in The Sopranos is modelled on Christopher Nolan’s hair when he was directing Memento, which also stars the same actor.