Does anyone know about the legality of removing the built-in sim cards from your car, specifically in Australia?

I don’t intend on using any car smart-features when I get one. For context, I’ve never owned a car. When I do get one though, I intend to remove the sim card to prevent the car’s location from being constantly tracked. All I care about in terms a cars functionality is a radio, a CD drive (Yes, I use CD’s), and Bluetooth audio, so I don’t think removing the sim card should affect this much, if at all. Any knowledge and advice would be appreciated, thankyou!

Update: What I was referring to is an eSim, which appears not to be in the form of a physical card. Even so, if possible, I would like to disable the functionality of this eSim assuming the car I purchase has one in-built. From my research, I cannot find anything that explicitly forbids disabling or removing Sims.

  • dnls@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I doubt any modern car with those features have a physical sim card you can remove. They are probably all using some sort of esim. On some cars the antennas can be unplugged but that depends on the specific model. If you’re unlucky, you will not even be able to remove the tracking features at all because they are integrated with other components needed to function.

    With regards to the legality of that, I unfortunately cant help you there. Probably best to search for local cases or ask a local lawyer.

    Your best option in probably buing a used car thats old enogh not to track you. Hope that helps a bit

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    1 year ago

    As others have said it will likely be an ESIM or similar solution because there isn’t a need for the manufacturer to support physical SIMs.

    Regarding being tracked though, Australia has ANPR just like most other developed countries, you will be trackable even if your car was just a Flintstones car with a numberplate.

    I’d also add if you’ve got a phone in your pocket, that’s just as trackable

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      1 year ago

      That is not the problem, it’s the incredible invasion of privacy the cars have from the manufacturer not the state. Lookup Mozilla privacy report on cars for more information. It’s appalling.

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      1 year ago

      I’m interested in this topic as well. I know I’m being tracked on my phone, but I’m much more confident my phone manufacturer is not selling/giving my data to police or insurance companies. Those are who I’m concerned with tracking me.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not just the phone manufacturer, but the mobile carrier, and apps with access to your location (like weather apps, or map apps)

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        1 year ago

        Apple is the manufacturer who makes the biggest hoo-ha over privacy, yet they gave user data to the police 90% of the time (Google was surprisingly lower at 80%)

        Plus if you have a subscription to a mobile cellular network, as basically everyone with a phone does, that will also be constantly tracking you (and I believe also directly available to the police).

        That’s all without going into whether you trust every single third party app on your phone and every website you visit.

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    1 year ago

    You’d better be leaving your phone at home every time you drive that car or you’ve defeated the point

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      1 year ago

      Not necessarily true. Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good enough. Limiting the number of organizations that have your data is a good thing. There’s no reason the car vendor needs that data

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    1 year ago

    Tesla allow you to opt out of all connectivity

    It means you would have no maps, no driver assist, no Internet radio

    Anyway if you buy a car it is yours. The worst you can do is break the contact for whatever services are provided by the connectivity. You are allowed to modify a car however you like

    Tesla don’t support CD. You’d need to rip those to mp3 and keep them on your phone to play over Bluetooth

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      1 year ago

      You are allowed to modify a car however you like

      I’m pretty sure that’s not the case. Like, even if we are not taking about adding a badly welded 4 wheel attachment without the use of a trailer hook, the car will have to go through technical inspection every few years.
      If the inspectirs deem that a non-functional such system is a problem, you’ll not be driving your car anywhere.