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      Which is random? I’ve only not heard of three: Instructure, fanduel, and chime.

      All the ones I’ve heard of are quite massive companies and I would assume the others are too.

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          Well I can’t be sad that that predatory industry took a hit. Thanks for letting me know who they were. Seems betting has gotten crazy in America when I thought it wasn’t a thing outside of certain places like Atlantic city or Vegas.

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            Yeah, sports betting is getting legalized in more and more US states. It’s pretty crazy. During most live sports broadcasts there are tons of commercials for it and even on the stadiums there are ads on the walls.

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    Maybe it was a bad idea for society to put 90% of the internet on one company’s infrastructure.

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      Typical Amazon undersells everyone else to remove competition. Then after everyone has gone under reminds you it is a terrible idea. Hopefully we see businesses get burnt more and determine it is better to self host, or even better yet not need half their services on “the cloud” anyways.

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      I think evil is too strong a word for Amazon, I think benzos is one of the nicer billionaires but I have heard the horror stories from Amazon warehouses.

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        Amazon essentially killed local bookstores and then used the proceeds to become a massive megaconglomerate only challangeable by alphabet, apple, and meta in their sheer capability to control media flow.

        They have spies in the form of Alexa enabled IOT devices basically everywhere. They also have the Ring camera. Recently they have stayed they will share data from Ring cameras with Palantir.

        Amazon is insidious. Its evil is quiet in its spread.

        The sheer size of Amazon, along with their business model, means they must employ vast swaths of people. In the US alone, over 1M people are employed by Amazon. Amazon plans to lay off half of them in the next 8 years while they shift to a robotic workforce.

        These “too big to fail” companies are not evil out of some malaise for humanity. They are evil out of a cavalier disinterest in anything other than increasing the size of their hoards.

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          I don’t think they killed local bookstores. I think your average person is just lazy, and publishers were too greedy to allow the audiobook to be included with the purchase of a book.

          The fact that they employ a million people is insane, I didn’t realize they were that large. I think laying off half the workforce to replace with robotics is not in acceptable but good. I have been working my entire life and it’s a huge waste of my life, and I look forward to robotic automation.

          The thing is, you can’t stop progress just because you miss the way things were. Things are always going to progress. The future can be cool as well.

          As far as benzos and stuff, maybe the Democrats shouldn’t be so shitty to everyone who is slightly different from they are. Running a business is something most people just don’t understand. The standard isn’t what you wish were true so much as it’s what you have to do in order to compete. Capitalism is a race to the bottom, the victory of the ruthless, it’s a bad game. Until we get a better economic system, we are kind of stuck with mega corporations. It’s not a choice. It’s what people vote for along with mass surveillance, and many other terrible laws. If you want to hate someone, go hate groups like focus on the family because they are the ones who ruin your society more than anyone and distract people from economic issues by getting these assholes elected who despise the idea of a social culture.

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          If you are going to hate someone at least hate them for a good reason. I’m not saying he is an angel or anything, just that he is nice and has less shitty views than many of the billionaires now.

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            He isn’t nice! He wants to replace all staff with robots, set targets so high that people have to piss in bottles and pays minimum wage which helps him get so rich.

            A nice person would have stopped longer before getting this large. He’s a monster. Maybe not in the traditional sense, but he contributes to a monstrous system.

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              I don’t believe that he would make people piss in bottles. I think that was probably a hit piece or something. Also replacing laborers with robots is good although capitalism and pseudo feudalism isn’t going to survive it but that’s also a good thing.

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                A hit piece? It’s been covered by numerous independent journalists and there is even video evidence of the crazy targets. And I know people that work for them.

                I’m sorry that you have Stockholm syndrome bro, but let’s face it, you’re never going to be one of them so stop defending them.

                Amazon has been known to lower prices to drive away competition and then raise prices. They’ve been shown to stock products and if that product does well they’ll make their own cheap version, undercut the original seller and when they can’t compete and the competition is gone they’ll increase the prices. They’re a predatory business at best and evil at worst. I’m happy to say I’ve not given Amazon a penny in about a decade. That’s before we even cover how they destroyed bookstores, and the shit show that is AWS.

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                  Hmm maybe idk, I still think they are probably one of the better American companies but that’s not really saying much.

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    It’s kind of telling when Amazon services like Ring, Prime Video, and Alexa failed over pretty quickly, but everything else just didnt.

    There’s no conspiracy here. It’s just highlighting that Amazon could prepare for AWS outages in a region, but since everything auth related was on us-east-1, everything else went down.

    Shortcuts are costly.

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    Time for open source Amazon app alternatives to be made. Made a post on OpenSource with suggestions on how to do it and how it can help open source communities: KDE, GNU/Linux, etc can each make their own and use their profits for their own and other open source projects. A passive income if you will from making, and managing the app that displays products from various partnered stores and websites

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      For some context, the issue was affecting AWS or Amazon Web Services, which is hosting for those other services (or parts of them), not an amazon app issue cascading to other services.

      And I don’t think an open source amazon app would work. Amazon is a lot more than just a webstore. They’ve got a massive logistics network plus warehouses and packing plants. I feel like an open source version of amazon’s store would end up avoiding the corporate shit but would have all the negatives of amazon store without many of the positives.

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    Jesus Amazon is a big enough company they should be doing their own hosting not using AWS.

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    Amazon sneezes, the whole internet catches a cold.

    Im still seeing services up/down the entire day at work. Services that are not even AWS like Azure are slow for some reason (probably businesses failing over to other infa). Its crazy.

    None of our in office infa is having issues. Managers are talking about fail-overs all day lol.

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      When a handful of people own all the companies in the world, the whole world becomes a single point of failure.

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    So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed? You young ops have gotten soft! Learn to live by ChaosMonkey or die by the Gorilla.

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      I think they’re the only ones doing multi-cloud. If us-east-1 shits the bed, it’s a bad day for AWS in general.

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      Yeah, but proper failover and recovery requires additional infrastructure, and that costs money.

      Hopefully a bunch of risk management people are writing I-told-you-so emails to C-suites right now.

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        Yeah but not to worry, C-suites have pretty good filtering rules in place to never read them. Saves time, really.

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        Yup, and some things which can be moved cannot be done automatically, quickly or easily…even if you are prepared. AWS is a huge suite of products and services, and there’s a lot of old legacy shit running on it. I wouldn’t punch down on the ops for this one. Cybersecurity and disaster recovery are not directly profitable, so they are almost always neglected in your average shop.

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          AWS is a huge suite of products and services, and there’s a lot of old legacy shit running on it.

          Yup, AWS is legacy cloud. It was only recently that they set encryption by default on S3 buckets, before that they were just in the clear by default.

          Cybersecurity and disaster recovery are not directly profitable, so they are almost always neglected in your average shop.

          It’s never important until suddenly it’s the most important thing in the world.