Or have to go through great lengths to escape.

In my country you can’t buy any medicine without showing your ID… I mean, you technically can, but if you are registered they “give” like an 80% discount, so everyone thinks it’s a great deal, not realizing that’s the normal price, they are just pretending you can still go and buy a simple cold medicine without sharing your ID, phone, email, and street address with the drug store and whoever they decide to sell that information to, you just have to pay absurdly more. Yeah, you can lie about all the other information, but not really about your ID number. Probably soon, to get the “discount”, you are going to have to verify your email or phone number as well.

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    ID verification for phone numbers.

    ALMOST every bank now forces you to have a phone application to authorize payments and each banks implements it in their own way, no standardized way like TOTP (RFC 6238) or Passkeys (WebAuthn), and sometimes those apps force you to use a verified phone (no custom ROM basically) because of security. So if you have no battery (or phone number, because some banks still send you codes trough SMS), you can’t authorize transactions.

    Most banks use 3rd party, non local AI companies to verify your identify with your face.

    Chile :3c

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    Where I’m from, France, it’s not so bad I think. We have pretty strong privacy laws I feel. But now I’m in the US so yeah. I’m in cybersecurity so I see the difference with what employers are allowed to do. Also Flock cameras popping up everywhere. There are a couple near me that make me lose Android Auto’s wifi everytime I drive by them so I’m thinking it’s intercepting stuff.

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      There’s an intersection like that near me (android auto always drops). I haven’t figured out what’s causing it though. Haven’t spotted a Flock camera there. There’s some down the road, but none that I’ve noticed at the intersection. There are what look like the normal traffic cams there. I too wonder if it’s something that’s purposely forcing disconnections so devices start broadcasting SSIDs/MAC info or something like that.

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        I mean forcing a reconnect to capture the handshake is exactly how I used to speed up WIFI cracking back in college. You would need that to break in a car’s wifi in the time it’s at a red light.

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        The way Android Auto connects, your phone connects to bluetooth on the car, then they set up their own little WIFI between them. That’s why it doesn’t work on VPNs that don’t allow split tunneling.

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    In my country it’s becoming ever more common that when I visit someone and that person lives in an apartment, the building has a doorman/security and they ask for my id.

    Also all supermarkets want to know your id number, but there at least I can say “no thanks”.

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      Fight back they’re pushing for it. Keeps getting introduced and we’ll go through at some point. Unless by Europe you mean individual people but in that case it is already lost.

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    In my country it’s just KYC, mostly services, banks and government. The rest is pretty private. Sure, there are cameras all over the city, government and private, but nothing like the Flock bullshit in the US. The cameras here are centralized in the 911 HQ, and no government institutions or police have acres to private cameras.

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    You can’t escape when you currently appears life in one of the millons cams anywhere and even with this life in YouTube, additional to the surveillance of big corporations, banks and the own ISP. Privacy nowadays is relative, you can only patch the biggest holes. 100% privacy is stay at home and reading a book with the smartphone turned off.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=live+webcams+around+the+world

    https://www.earthcam.com/

    https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam.html

    https://worldcams.tv/

    etc… adding millons more used by police and govs with face recognition soft.

    • credit cards, debit cards, and now cashless vendors
    • flock cameras
    • google, fb, and amazon scooping everything I do online
    • license plate readers on cop cars and on random parking lots
    • my work computer taking screenshots, listening, and even scanning how long I spend reading an email to make sure I am not ignoring the nonsense the company directors send us about how great AI is and that we all have to use it EVERY FUCKING DAY
    • membership cards
    • I can’t think of more right now, but there are more
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      it’s so dystopian when I travel to countries where cashless vendors are a thing. Recently Germany took me by surprise, they have been a bastion of cash for a long time, and during my last trip there were many restaurants with “no cash accepted” signs. Just like in the UK or Norway where privacy is already a lost cause

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      I’ve effectively excised fb from my life and i’m becomming kinda proud since so many people still struggle with that one.

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      You can escape the big tech tracking by installing uBlock Origin in your browser, and if you use their services, disabling personalised ads and search/activity history in their accounts.

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        escape the big tech tracking by installing uBlock Origin

        Cloudflare and AWS say “Hi” 👋

        UBO is a very good tech that I strongly recommend too though. Just gotta be aware of its limits.

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          Let them build a profile on me I never see their ads anyway. I can minimize but not escape it if I want to partake in modern society.

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          Cloudflare just checks for bot activity and AWS is just a hosting provider. They don’t use data for ads or sell it to anyone.

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            The original claim was about tracking (“escape the big tech tracking”), so here AWS and Cloudflare are definitely relevant. The content, including input, also flows through them I think? It’s specifically unencrypted if I get it right.

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            Hahaha I got a sandbox to sell you in the Sahara. Everyone is selling data or ads they are not leaving money on the table.

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    • You have to hand over a huge amount of personal info about yourself & others to estate agents when renting a property - which they then sell to advertisers & you have no opt-out
    • Similarly, landords can require you to use a proprietary app for rent payments, which of course collects & sells your private data too
    • Burner phones are effectively illegal (telcos are required to collect & retain ID of every phone number they register)
    • Telcos and ISPs are required to collect & retain logs of all your activities for a minimum of two years
    • In some cities police can detain & search you & your property for no reason, and require you to remove any facial coverings
    • It’s illegal to refuse to hand over passwords to cops (6 years jail is the max term I think)
    • Police can hack your device, take over your social media, delete or modify your data for an investigation, or survey any digital device if they “think it is likely to be used by someone subject to a warrant” (this particular bill was announced and then rushed through parliament in less than 24 hours to give the public as little time as possible to protest it
    • Some social media sites (including github(wtf)) are now required to age-verify all users beginning next month. Which will obviously lead to mass leaks & breaches of private data which the gov will turn a blind eye to

    This is Australia. I hate it here

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      Over the ditch here, New Zealand isn’t much better and like many countries only getting worse. The insane amount of personal information that essential companies (e.g. electricity, property managers, etc) is getting out of control and our digital privacy laws are still in the dark ages.

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        They want it all the data so they can sell well taking all your money. It’s insane capitalism is broken and we the people should be revolting instead of just accepting it. If people only knew how much data they had on us.

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    Our president, House leader, Senate leader, head of FBI are all owned by a foreign government, and the ones who aren’t, are blackmailed, or paid off to support them at all costs, even if it’s committing a genocide. There’s no way to escape it, we are a nation under blackmail.

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      Sorry, *your* president, not mine. I don’t live in the US.

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        Doesn’t matter he seems to have lots of power over the other countries. As everyone wants access to their money.

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        (If you’re ashamed to explicitly point out your country, then… I think you have to deal with that anyway. I don’t know if fighting against the bad actors in your country is a feasible strategy; it’s too easy to give poor advice from far away, imagining yourself an expert where in reality you’re not, so I’m not recommending anything.)

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      Hmm… so what does it change? Before you could have health insurance without using your ID?