The Women’s Institute will no longer accept transgender women as members from April following the UK supreme court ruling on the legal definition of a woman, the Guardian can reveal.
The why the fuck do they call it women’s institute?
Good.
Oh looks like someone’s ragebaiting.
Too bad for you that I’m pro-trans, very bored and decided to shame you for not having inpendendent thoughts.
Hey, I agree. Now watch us both get deleted/banned now.
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Then its no longer the Women’s Institute then. Might as well change the name to bigotry Institute.
The JK Rowling Memorial TERF Institue
I wouldn’t blame the institute they’re doing it against their wishes for legal reasons. I believe they’re going to still support trans women the best they can within the rules of the law.
They are choosing to disenfranchise people instead of fight for them. If they are willing to throw people away to maintain their own positions, then they never actually cared about you in the first place. They are choosing to sacrifice people for their own comfort.
Fuck Melissa Green, the bigot.
You can absolute blame them for doing it without a fight. We’ll see if these ‘legal routes’ they’re exploring go anywhere, or if it’s just ‘sowwy, the gobermint said we had to uwu’
Ah yes collaboration with nazis ends well for everyone…
What legal reasons? They’re not legally bound to only accept cis women, its just one of their own rules. They don’t have to go through the courts, they can change their bylaws to include trans women. Or whatever verbiage they need.
Unless I’m missing something, they have no legal obligation to keep the same bylaws as an organization. Then there’s no basis for a terf to sue.
ETA: whoop, missed this part of the article apparently;
Green said the organisation wanted trans women to remain “part of the WI family” and that from April it would launch new “sisterhood groups”, open to all, which would be “a place where we will recognise transgender women as women and explore what it is to be a woman in the 21st century."
So if that’s possible, then it seems absurd that the main organization could be at risk of legal action
They’re a federation of charities. Charities can’t just change their by-laws when they want to.
Well not overnight obviously, I’m sure it has to go through a board of directors and have a vote for it. My comment may have come off a bit more flippant then intended tbh. But I’m not aware of any legal reason they can’t go that route though, but I’m not in the UK so ¯\(ツ)/¯
I did find this, which I think is relevant. https://the-icm.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/CC363.pdf
What laws? This blatantly turning their backs on trans women.
Have you read the article? It literally says it’s due to the Supreme Court ruling on the definition of a woman.
The head of the institute expresses deep regret and is exploring legal routes to correct this…
And they have to follow that law, or using it as an excuse to deny trans?
Nah they can just ignore the law.
Seriously though, I’d guess their funding comes from the government in some way, and if they do not adhere to the laws governing that, their funding could be completely pulled.
Edit: To be more clear, it’s likely the definition of woman in the eyes of the govt would determine what aid groups do with funds provided by the government if they say they serve that population, so it could be considered defrauding the govt if you’re helping trans women with funds allocated only for “women” under the new definition.
I think it’s fucked up the court ruled this way, but it’s at least understandable why this institute would need to follow along unless they want to try to self-fund in some way, which might not work at all and then the good they are doing is completely lost. They also did say they’re going to work on it from a legal perspective so unless that’s just BS (could be) then it seems they are trying to do the right thing and advocate for trans rights.
The WI gets no government funding. That would be strange.
Why would it be strange?
Its extremely common for advocacy/care groups to get governmental funding
The Women’s Institute will no longer accept transgender women as members from April following the UK supreme court ruling on the legal definition of a woman, the Guardian can reveal.
“Incredibly sadly, we will have to restrict our membership on the basis of biological sex from April next year,” Green said. “But the message we really want to get across is that it remains our firm belief that transgender women are women, and that doesn’t change.”
They used a right wing dogwhistle.
What was the dogwhistle?
When bigots say “biological sex” they’re intentionally misgendering.
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I don’t think they’re using it as a dogwhistle, from searching it just seems a fairly commonly used term
‘Biological sex’
You heard it here first; trans women are droids.
What a bunch of spineless cowards.
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Kindly, check the origin of the policy. They’ve been letting trans women in for 50 years. They just made it official in 2015. This is in response to a very recent mass cultural kickback in the UK.
They face no real repercussion for stopping the long held tradition, and much from continuing. Bending the knee.
Ada will ban that nazi
Ada is a certified queen
They face no real repercussion for stopping the long held tradition
Then why are people upset?
Because its bigotry.
I thought there was no real repercussion.
You think that people being upset is a real consequence compared to legal action?
Because they have been inclusive to trans women for half a century, and an outside force is making them stop.
We get it, you’re a bigot. You didn’t need to keep reminding us.
3 day account to boot too.
Likely made for the sole purpose of trolling. Some people have nothing better to do with their lives.
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You keep posting this same thing. So you’re hateful and not creative. Tends to go hand in hand. But you simply responding, let’s us know you’re reading these comments. At least you’re not using the clown emoji, guess you trumpettes are finally evolving.
Abandoning vulnerable people is the most coward thing they could do.
I agree with you.
Ugh, this creates a dilemma: upvote or not? I’m never sure what to do here.
I hate the content so I want to downvote, but I like the awareness so I want to upvote.
I think upvotes are for the quality of the content in the post and comments are for sharing your opinion.
So, upvote when the post fits the purpose of the community, spurs discussion, and follows the rules.
Comment to tell people what you think about the content of the post.
If we downvoted every time there was horrible news we didn’t agree with communities like news and politics would never receive a single upvote.
I think you’re spot on yeah.
Content aggregators (where Digg, Reddit, and to a certain degree StumbleUpon were the obvious choices) generally use the upvote/downvote tooling to promote content that users think are worthy to be shared or should be seen more; same with comments if they add constructively to the discussion regardless of viewpoint.
The problem with using upvote and downvote style tools to express like and dislike means that you just end up with an echo chamber of “goodthink” and a community that circlejerks itself, where dissenting or controversial but possibly accurate comments and posts never see the light of day.
The org wanted to retain trans women but the UK’s court ruling made that a legal hazard? I’m not sure who would have standing to sue and over what exactly?
Terfs. Terfs would sue.
So they should fight the law, not accept it.
Your understanding of legal issues astounds me.
Truly furthering the plight of women everywhere. I say, well done!
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
