• The Bard in Green@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
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    When any criticism of the Israeli government or expression of solidarity with the Palestinian people is “antisemitic”, you’ve damaged and weakened the very meaning of the word “antisemitism” and the moral authority of those who wield it.

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      I’ve heard some people say some straight-up antisemitic things recently, and, for the first time in my life, I’ve been scared to speak up against it. Because this country successfully destroyed the meaning of antisemitism to the point that a Nazi could easily stomp my Jewish ass without facing real heat concerning hate crimes because they support Israel or whatever.

      My community should have really considered the repercussions of agreeing with a Nazi back when they had a chance. Instead, when I’d point out that being on the same page as Nazis usually implies you’re on the wrong side, they responded that maybe it’s time to admit that Hitler might have had some good ideas.

      You don’t have to have seen Lost Boys to know that you shouldn’t invite a vampire into your home. Same goes for Nazis.

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          Someone else gave the clean version, but the conspiracy theory version is Antisemitism relates Jews with the middle east even though most are from Eastern Europe and have no connection to actual semites. Therefore the term antisemitism is an extension of zionism.

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          Because Judaism only covers the religion, while semitism covers so much more. It would not be antisemitic to say that my chances for dementia are significantly elevated, even though that is a common trait with people of my Jewish lineage. And, in fact, I’ve watched most of my family die from neurodegenerative diseases.

          What is antisemitic is when people tell me that I don’t have a very Jewish-looking nose. No amount of reading the Torah will give your family dementia or enlarge your nose.

          The chances that I’m circumcised are higher, and that’s because of my religion. Guessing that wouldn’t be antisemitic, but asking if my parents cut my pp off could possibly be seen as such.

          I’m not sure if I made sense with all this. You’re welcome.

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        Antisemitism is calling all Jews (including those in your country) bad because X.

        Antizionism is calling the Israeli government (and only the government) bad because Y.

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          Antizionism should be calling Zionists bad, and there are plenty outside of the Israeli government.

          If you’re anti-nazi there are a lot of people you should be calling bad outside of the German government between the 20’s and 40’s.

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      I agree with you. And I would also like to set fire to this thread by asking: couldn’t you say the same about criticising US Conservative Republicans and saying all are Nazis, and weaken the word, because only MAGA are legit racist homophobic Christian fascists?

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        If you look very carefully you will see that they’re all in support of some very Nazi shit.

        They just justify that we’re being wokescolds by stopping short of wanting Holocaust 2 (even as they literally support it in Gaza)

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        They are Nazis and anyone saying they aren’t at this point is a Nazi apologist and should be treated the same as a Nazi.