This is why this form of moralising fails. Nobody told you not to eat poop, it IS horrible, it tastes that way, it’s horrible for your health and it leaves you with a nasty breath. Sex is/can be extremely enjoyable, it’s a calorie-negative activity even! And because it is, it had to be regulated, and God regulated it and left it as the gift between two people who know, love and commit to each other, it’s the only way it will not only “taste” good but be good for your psyche and soul’s health (and physical health too cause fucking around can have the known medical consequences). But of course, nobody can force you, you have to accept this yourself and enforce it to yourself.
If you have friends who have kids, please ask them how often they’ve gotta tell their infant not to stick their poopy fingers in their mouth. I guarantee your parents had to do it with you too.
Well, that’s true, but at the stage of development those I interact with here are, I assume their palate, sense of smell and understanding of reality is advanced enough to have a baseline dislike of poop. Unless they’re some freaky Berliners or something, idk. 😅
a) god is only pretend; and b) you don’t need an imaginary divine punisher to learn that sex is a special thing that should be based on respect and trust-- and while it can be better if love is part of the equation, it doesn’t have to be. let alone some stone age binding ritual of “you’re my property now”
i agree that some regulation should surround sex, but “no sex unless married” has to be one of the most useless requirements
I know that’s how it is for you and your whole so-called civilization but that’s the whole point: you need to deprogram. Hedonistic nihilism is not a solid foundation to build anything that doesn’t turn into a cancer for the rest humanity.
premarital sex is not “hedonistic nihilism,” and you have literally nothing to support such a stupid claim, other than maybe your bible, which–i’m sorry-- i fucking reject as a valid authority figure
if you want to talk about “cancer for humanity,” then we can talk about RELIGION if you prefer
You reject everything as an “authority figure”/guidance besides your basest desires and whims, lol, that’s the whole problem. The difference in your society lies simply in opportunity, Billy Bob touches her niece the same way Diddy touched whoever he could, cause you believe in nothing… besides rebels like John Brown and miss Greta who actually believe in something and stand by it.
nope. as i said before, sex should be based on respect and trust, and it can be even better with love, but love doesn’t have to be involved for it to be a good experience. the bare minimum is mutual consent.
your make-believe god butting in and judging people based on whether they’re married or not is straight fucking bullshit.
i’m not telling you how to live your life. i’m telling you that you don’t get to tell everyone else how to live their life.
edit: to reply to your ninja edit-- unsurprisingly, you’re trying to equate premarital sex with pedophilia, rape, and every other fucking disgusting thing, which, again, is bullshit. to reiterate, there is literally NOTHING wrong with two consenting adults having sex without being married. your religion has made you hate this thing so much that you have to convince yourself that it’s basically the same as raping children in order to rationalize it.
I do get to, I’m doing it right now! I’m not forcing you though, nobody can, I can only disapprove of your actions and ideas and remind you to correct them like a good brother.
Enjoyable sex is enjoyable sex, regardless of the number, type, or genders the participants choose to include. As long as everybody involved wants it to happen that way (and it’s a relatively informed choice), what business is it of anybody else’s? Everyone has their personal preferences in a multitude of areas, and sex is just one of them. If you want your preferences to be considered valid and acceptable, then you must allow others to have the same rights.
I don’t understand what this has to do with anything I said, lol. You don’t believe in God, so you don’t believe in things being objectively valid or not, some limits being strict regardless of whims, this is not for you. You go have your consensual orgies and mudplay in sex clubs in Berlin, I’m not stopping you. 🤷
You don’t believe in God, so you don’t believe in things being objectively valid or not,
To borrow from Monty Python: “Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.”
The rest of your gibberish is baseless nonsensical crap & assumptions attempting to validate your propensity to be judgemental of that which you obviously do not understand. Typical religious wingnut.
I think I understand sex, temptation and the hedonistic slippery slopes of life just fine, lol, I’m a person like everyone else! Anyway, sure, whatever, to you your deeds and to me mine.
This is why this form of moralising fails. Nobody told you not to eat poop, it IS horrible, it tastes that way, it’s horrible for your health and it leaves you with a nasty breath. Sex is/can be extremely enjoyable, it’s a calorie-negative activity even! And because it is, it had to be regulated, and God regulated it and left it as the gift between two people who know, love and commit to each other, it’s the only way it will not only “taste” good but be good for your psyche and soul’s health (and physical health too cause fucking around can have the known medical consequences). But of course, nobody can force you, you have to accept this yourself and enforce it to yourself.
If you have friends who have kids, please ask them how often they’ve gotta tell their infant not to stick their poopy fingers in their mouth. I guarantee your parents had to do it with you too.
Well, that’s true, but at the stage of development those I interact with here are, I assume their palate, sense of smell and understanding of reality is advanced enough to have a baseline dislike of poop. Unless they’re some freaky Berliners or something, idk. 😅
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a) god is only pretend; and b) you don’t need an imaginary divine punisher to learn that sex is a special thing that should be based on respect and trust-- and while it can be better if love is part of the equation, it doesn’t have to be. let alone some stone age binding ritual of “you’re my property now”
i agree that some regulation should surround sex, but “no sex unless married” has to be one of the most useless requirements
I know that’s how it is for you and your whole so-called civilization but that’s the whole point: you need to deprogram. Hedonistic nihilism is not a solid foundation to build anything that doesn’t turn into a cancer for the rest humanity.
premarital sex is not “hedonistic nihilism,” and you have literally nothing to support such a stupid claim, other than maybe your bible, which–i’m sorry-- i fucking reject as a valid authority figure
if you want to talk about “cancer for humanity,” then we can talk about RELIGION if you prefer
You reject everything as an “authority figure”/guidance besides your basest desires and whims, lol, that’s the whole problem. The difference in your society lies simply in opportunity, Billy Bob touches her niece the same way Diddy touched whoever he could, cause you believe in nothing… besides rebels like John Brown and miss Greta who actually believe in something and stand by it.
I’m an atheist and I’ve never molested a child. How do you explain that?
nope. as i said before, sex should be based on respect and trust, and it can be even better with love, but love doesn’t have to be involved for it to be a good experience. the bare minimum is mutual consent.
your make-believe god butting in and judging people based on whether they’re married or not is straight fucking bullshit.
i’m not telling you how to live your life. i’m telling you that you don’t get to tell everyone else how to live their life.
edit: to reply to your ninja edit-- unsurprisingly, you’re trying to equate premarital sex with pedophilia, rape, and every other fucking disgusting thing, which, again, is bullshit. to reiterate, there is literally NOTHING wrong with two consenting adults having sex without being married. your religion has made you hate this thing so much that you have to convince yourself that it’s basically the same as raping children in order to rationalize it.
what the fuck is wrong with you?
I do get to, I’m doing it right now! I’m not forcing you though, nobody can, I can only disapprove of your actions and ideas and remind you to correct them like a good brother.
LOL you’ve done nothing but support my position instead of your own. good job “brother”
tell your wife i’m sorry on behalf of you
You’re just being rebellious, God willing you’ll grow out of it.
Enjoyable sex is enjoyable sex, regardless of the number, type, or genders the participants choose to include. As long as everybody involved wants it to happen that way (and it’s a relatively informed choice), what business is it of anybody else’s? Everyone has their personal preferences in a multitude of areas, and sex is just one of them. If you want your preferences to be considered valid and acceptable, then you must allow others to have the same rights.
I don’t understand what this has to do with anything I said, lol. You don’t believe in God, so you don’t believe in things being objectively valid or not, some limits being strict regardless of whims, this is not for you. You go have your consensual orgies and mudplay in sex clubs in Berlin, I’m not stopping you. 🤷
To borrow from Monty Python: “Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.”
The rest of your gibberish is baseless nonsensical crap & assumptions attempting to validate your propensity to be judgemental of that which you obviously do not understand. Typical religious wingnut.
I think I understand sex, temptation and the hedonistic slippery slopes of life just fine, lol, I’m a person like everyone else! Anyway, sure, whatever, to you your deeds and to me mine.
“Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.” -Capt. Malcolm Reynolds
What?
So basically, if I include food with sex, it’s a calorie positive activity, and none of that applies.
I need to open a pizza shop, this is going to get expensive fast otherwise. Now, who wants some meat-lovers? Extra large, of course 😏
That’s just a little plus, lol. Good for the heart and all too!
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How do you know poop tastes horrible and leaves a nasty breath?
Have you ever had a dog get right up into your face immediately after cleaning itself?
🤢
Thankfully, never!