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For Americans: top picture needs to show big medical bills. You’ll get treatment for physical health problems, but at a heavy price.
In America the bottom picture follows the top one.
Don’t forget with mental health struggles, people will tell you to just get over it and that marriage and kids may save you (which yikes, those poor kids), turn to god, or that the actual problem is that you’re not being productive so simply take a shower, start a hobby, develop your career. Your worth is based on productivity and you’re struggling because you’re not making someone else wealthy.
“You’re not depressed, you’re just lazy and need a job” 🫠
I truly think the best first step to beating any medical condition, both physical or mental is to have a positive outlook.
While I generally agree with what you’re saying, I can’t help but feel it’s negative and almost giving excuses to people experiencing these issues, that their problems are essentially unable to be fixed and that the world should have sympathy for them.
While I agree to a point, I also believe that until those people are truly ready to face their inner issues and work through them, they will not get better so I do ask myself what the point of these kinds of comments are?
You also kinda threw a capitalist spin on it, which I think is unnecessary
I can’t tell if you’re being ironic or not. But if you are, you should post on !chadmctruthstruth@lemmy.world
I understand the sentiment, but I literally lost all my friends when I had cancer in high school due to a combination of people not knowing what to say or how to act and an abusive boyfriend telling lies to the few that stuck around. The youth pastor at the church I went to wasn’t even comfortable coming into my hospital room
When the treatment is clear and the recovery virtually guaranteed, the support is freely given.
When the problems aren’t visible, the treatment plan is more improvisation than schedule, and recovery is hard to quantify. Support is harder to give and rarer to receive.
Mental problems are more likely to fall into the later bucket, but there are a swath of physical ailments from the metabolic and hormonal to the structural that also get lumped in.
And as someone who struggled with depression, I also wanted to offer the counterpoint that when you are experiencing a depressive episode, you aren’t necessarily going to be receptive to people coming around your bedside and giving flowers and support. It’s a mental state that rejects happiness or even comfort, so while I get the idea behind the comic, it’s over-simplified and not really prescribing anything. We don’t treat physical and mental illness the same, nor should we.
We should understand that they’re both equally real conditions that people suffer from, and need help in treating, but we need to stop giving this ammunition to unwell brains that their depression is part of a narrative where people aren’t going to help you or support you.
People broadly are bad at supporting and helping with mental OR physical conditions, as you outlined. Every time I’ve ever been ill, physical or mental, I’ve had to spend all my time reassuring others and taking care of the emotional states of those worried. This is how it usually goes, when we get sick or injured, we are not going to get helped by others, and managing the way others feel on top of being unwell is just part of the course, we don’t get a relief or break. We won’t get satisfaction no matter what happens, we have to just hunker down and get through it without expectation in others.
Chronically ill people seeing this meme: ‘Am I a joke to you?’
And I think that these days we all struggle at least a little
Be kind to yourself, look out for your friends, family and loved ones
I’d love to see a mental health facility designed for people who simply need a bit of a break and need to get a little TLC. Like, come on in, drink some of this, it’ll put color in your cheeks.
That is what the spas that wealthy people go to are for.
Once AI renders us redundant, which will happen, whether you like it or not…
…it will be possible, but they will instead, leave us to die, without even a humane way to euthanize ourselves.
They will take everything from us, and watch us squirm in our own trash and waste. Watch us struggle.
“AI” doesn’t exist. These kind of imaginary fantasies just promote the grift and distract from the actual problems with technology under capitalism.
Unless AI is going to watch all the ads we will not become redundant.
Even better when you have both, but can mask them effectively enough that very few know.
The few people ive met with mental health issues didnt wanna talk about it. Thats fine. But at the same time they started hiding away, not socializing etc… making it even harder to support them.
That’s a survival tactic learned from having talked to people about their mental health issues.
There is an enormous stigma attached to the mental struggles, so people are afraid of scolding and mockery
“how do you expect to get better if you don’t go out”
Probably been burnt from talking about it and then being dumped for being such a downer.
It’s completely bizarre how people who are victimized by society are expected to heal through immersion in that same society.
“Society”
What is the point you’re trying to make? Society is comprised of people, so if the world makes you depressed you should avoid all people?
Sad part is that after years off information and fundings for mental health ( for children ) it is still not seen by some as a problem. And than you get 18+ ( not child ) and somehow now you have to ‘man up’ ‘be harder’ or ‘yust laugh a bit more’.
And don’t forget the partner/familie. A depression also is a weight on their life.
I get stress induced hives, and my old doctor’s advice was, “just don’t be stressed”.
Thanks for not helping, I guess.I’ so sorry for you. Hope that now you are better helped. ( Old dok… So i guess you have a new one)
Somewhat, though I most definitely did get a new doctor. Thank you for the concern.
I managed to get appointments with the psychiatry teams, however essentially it boiled down to it being difficult to help with CPTSD as a whole, individual aspects must be considered when each trauma differs greatly in subject matter.
So one therapy at a time. For a long time. It’s not what I wanted to hear, yet it is what I needed. I’ve been taking steps to improve my mental health in great ways, and my current doctor’s practice has been rather supportive.It’s funny, my new doctors is only about 10 minutes further than my old one. Has been worth the change.
oh man. “Just laugh a bit more” is abhorrent. WTF. WHY DIDN’T I THINK OF THAT? FWIW, I laugh sometimes, but i’m just hiding my pain. if i laugh more, i will be cured of all this shit? SOMEONE GET THE DOCTORS, AUTIENESS AND ADHD CAN BE CURED BY LAUGHING MORE!
Sorry, didn’t mean to go off at you. it wasn’t directed at you, but at your example. No ill will towards you :)
Non taken.
Tkx for the reaction btw. We need people who care.If you live in Sweden, the doctors will tell you to drink more water, eat healthy and go for more walks.
Which, to be fair, is good advice in general and good especially for depression.
But, yeah I get what you mean. Here in NL it’s not much better unless you bully your doctors.
Based on low suicide rates and people’s reported happiness, that is good advice the vast majority of the time.
Obviously an issue if it is the only thing they say.
35/180 is not low.
Mental healthcare here is beyond a joke.
Gotta show the cops restraining the persona and hauling them off for involuntary sedation… ETC.
Even worse, give a hint that you have mental health struggles, even if you don’t actually do anything bad.
People instantly see you as lesser.
I learned the hard way to never vent to friends. Just give them a few bones, and pretend to be the perfect, ideal version of yourself that you can be. Tell them enough shows you like, and they will find one they are strongly opposed to. Complain about issues enough, and you become an energy draining vampire. Etc, etc.
It’s better to expect nothing from everyone, recognize that anything you gain from humans has a cost, and to remove yourself from human influences as fast as possible.
I’m guessing you’re also an American. I feel you, friend. The US has a cultural toxic positivity problem, amongst other issues. Got a problem? STFU and turn that frown upside down! They’re not problems but opportunities! It could be worse! It is… what it is. 🫠
So people bottle up their negative emotions and don’t learn how to deal with them. They don’t know how to seek OR give support. Some feel threatened when presented with someone else’s negative emotions, and it doesn’t help that the other usually doesn’t know how to present them, so they try to make it go away.
I have no idea how to fix it on a societal level beyond learning to do better ourselves and setting a good example for others.
Thought stopping statements really piss me off. The only thing they do is confuse me because they don’t provide forward momentum.
I think emotion management should be taught in school, starting in pre k and continued as the child grows up. This way they know how to hold space for people, understand boundaries, how to manage themselves. Everyone will have healthier relationships if this happens.
It is really silly that it’s not taught.
Physical Education? Check.
Academics? Check.
Emotional Intelligence? Whoa whoa whoa there, slow down now, that’s not for public education. That’s done in the home, with Jesus!
Well, thank you for the understanding, but I actually live somewhere known as Serbia.
Here, if Rakija doesn’t solve it, you are just a pussy 😭
I know Serbia and rakija! It reminds me of grappa. Sorry you’re also stuck in a toxic society and have the curse of knowing it could be better.
Visit People in Mental health hospital and see no one has cards or flowers beside there bed.
It’s the same person before and after seeing the medical bill
As an American, I don’t know what that first image is supposed to be, but it sure looks expensive.
Only Americans would think about money when being sick in the hospital.
“Hmmm, should I undergo a lifetime of debt or just die now?”
That made me think of a joke thats funny to me…but I’ve learned that most OTHER people find some of my humor far too upsetting to be funny.
So instead, just think about that clip of donald duck getting a handjob from daisy duck where he cums all over the place, and then says “oh boy! You are a mess! I’ll go get you a towel!”
Thats ALWAYS funny!
Farming downvotes? Most don’t want to hear about your personal hentai collection of their favorite childhood cartoons.
Is it you, SatansMaggotyCumFart?
I do agree with the message about invisible disabilities and mental ableism, but I’m gonna push back on some of this greener grass thinking. For a lot of physical health struggles like chronic fatigue, diabetes, juvenile arthritis, etc… they don’t get this kind of support. Being trans is also often a physical health struggle as much as mental. I like reminding people that gender dysphoria is a genetic disorder.
If you are rich they both can look like the top one.
Then again, if you eat the most nutritious food and live without ANY stress your entire life; you probably wouldn’t get mental or physical problems either.
live without ANY stress your entire life
Tell me your secrets, o wise one
if you are rich
They did. At the beginning.
The secret: Be so lobotomized, that you don’t think or worry about anything. Because a sane person will have phases in their lives, where they will want to achieve certain things.
I like reminding people that gender dysphoria is a genetic disorder.
Have never heard about that before. You got a source for that?
His source is he made it up and “just trust me”.
You forgot to add “bro”. Rookie mistake.
Most trans people have the wrong chromosomes for their identity.
While I might agree with that take I would not call this a genetic disorder per se. Simply the existence of people who are not (or just partly) on any binary side of gender, but experience Dysphoria show why this is simply a huge oversimplification.
I’m intersex and nonbinary. One might make a fair argument that I’m cisgender, though I would personally disagree, as I identify not as neuter or bigender or agender, but as goddessgender. And I think I should have goddess genes, whatever those would look like. My genes gave Me this annoying human body that I have to use magic to escape. I wish they were different.
I get it. I wish I could just chop off all the fleshy bits altogether, and become a clanker.
Fortunately, I need only tolerate these genes and this body while I am in consensus reality. When I dissociate from this plane and project to another, I can shapeshift as I please, and spend time with My otherkin friends in their true forms, including My robot friends. I hope to convince more natives of Earth to come venture beyond reality with Me, so that non-persons such as ourselves can be free and still participate in society.
Yes! A reason to post this!
Mood
