He doesn’t tend to at all, ever mention anything like right or wrong, morals, stuff like that. He talks about geopolitics, negotiation power, what states and militaries are capable or doing or what they’re likely to do. I can’t recall him ever saying any opinion about who’s morally right or wrong. So I don’t see how what you said could possibly be, but if it did, please share a link and a timestamp.
At the start, 0 - 57 sec, no mention of the repeated history of Israel deliberately sabatoging the ceasefire process for the entire first two years of the genocide. Also no mention of Gaza being a captive civilian population, that’s been under Israeli Apartheid for over 70 years.
At 3:07 to 4:30, he states that one of Israel’s primary objective is the retrieve all the hostages and that if Hamas wanted to end the war, they would need to return them all as a prerequisite.
No mention that Israel had repeated stated that eradicating Hamas took priority over the hostages, nor that Hamas has been willing to release all the hostages and give up governance of Gaza to a technocratic Council of all Palestinian factions since 2023.
He also states that Israel needed to take enough militants prisoner in order to level the playing field for the ceasefire. Which completely ignores one of the major reason for the Oct 7th operation, to release the thousands to tens of thousands of Palestinian prisoners (most of which were taken without evidence or trial, including hundreds of children, and systematically tortured while captive). The scales were already tilted far in Israel’s favor when it comes to hostages, yet it’s framed as necessary to even out the playing field for the ceasefire.
Again at 4:40, again he falsely states that the ceasefire would leave control of Gaza to Hamas, ignoring the technocratic committee. Also ignoring the actual Israeli war goal, the complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza for settler colonialist expansion.
At 7:17 he states that preventing normalization between SA and Israel is a main factor. Which while it is a factor, still ignores that ending the Apartheid and Occupation is the main factor.
At 7:40 he frames the US as a third party, which is completely ridiculous by all accounts.
At 8:05 he calls the Camp Davis Accords “peace in the middle east” which is also wrong, it was counter Insurgency and a continuation of Apartheid.
He doesn’t tend to at all, ever mention anything like right or wrong, morals, stuff like that
Genocide is a systematic form of destruction. It’sconcerning, at the least, that he fails to mention both that it is a genocide nor how exactly Israel has mechanized that destruction. Such as targets, how they determine targets, or really any nature of their military operations. He also omits the US’ financial incentive of Weapon Manufacturer sales to delaying a ceasefire, as well as the ideological component of Zionism and geopolitical component of instability in the region.
Sorry, I don’t feel like slipping into a huge argument. Most of what you said, I don’t feel is relevant criticism for the video, it basically amounts to “he didn’t say the things that I wanted him to say to confirm my opinions”.
But I don’t want to spend hours dealing with your gish gallop so you win.
If you can’t recognize the difference between being pro-palestinian and pro-hamas, then you’re not worth having a serious discussion with.
By the way, the Israeli government would like nothing more than for the world to view the two things as the same. It’s the same as conflating anti-zionism with anti-semitism.
And if you think it’s not a real problem and only exists in the imagination, then you should read more about some of the “activist” groups in the UK.
Second of all, I support all aspects of Palestinian resistance unconditionally. That includes Hamas, as well as the numerous other resistance factions within both Gaza and the West Bank.
Third, there’s a reason that all the other resistance groups, including the communist PFLP and the anarchist Fauda, have cooperated and coordinated with Hamas and one another both in military operations and peace negotiations. Because for all of them a unified front for liberation surpasses any ideological differences. Picking and choosing which ones you do or don’t support while you’re sitting comfortably at home, completely removed from the genocide, is completely ridiculous. Not to mention that Hamas is more than just the Al Qassam brigades, every department in Gaza from healthcare to education to agriculture is also Hamas.
It’s the same as conflating anti-zionism with anti-semitism.
No it’s absolutely fucking not. That shows how little you know or care. Zionism is a fascist ideology. Israel intentionally conflates the two to defend it’s fascist actions at the expense of Jewish people globally.
Hamas is conservative, as many other anti-colonial resistance have been. It is a reaction against colonialism. Fanon discusses the nature of this at length, it does not de-legitimize anti-colonial resistance. Denouncing their resistance for that reason is playing exactly into the hands of the colonialists. Immediate survival, such as resistance to genocide and apartheid, is the immediate concern. Progressive changes happen from within a society once there is breathing room for that societal and/or political change to take place. A society can’t breathe when under occupation or genocide. That mentality of conditionality for emancipation is exactly why Israel does Pinkwashing.
Woop, there it is. You can’t rape your way to liberty. But since you support hamas unconditionally, I suppose you disagree with me there.
I would say I support Palestinian liberation, but if you think that means I have to support hamas then I guess I can’t do that. That’s what I mean when I say you’re promoting Israel’s narrative when you say pro-Palestinian means pro-Hamas. If that’s the case, then I guess they weren’t lying when they designated hospitals and schools as military targets. In your own words, those are run by hamas.
If it were up to me, I’d say avoid civilian infrastructure. But if hamas is hiding weapons caches and command centers underneath hospitals and schools, then they’re partially responsible for the resulting destruction.
The Palestinian Authority could have made diplomatic progress towards autonomy and sovereignty, but hamas fought them for control and radicalized the youth. Now the Palestinian Authority has no power, and terrorists are indistinguishable from civilians.
But you’re not willing to criticize hamas, so you’re just gonna pout and accuse me of supporting genocide. I don’t. Israel’s response has been disproportionate beyond any reasonability. But you’re enabling their narrative when you say things like “picking and choosing which [Palestinian factions] you do or don’t support is completely ridiculous.”
I can and do reject hamas for their ideologies as well as their methodologies. That doesn’t mean I approve of Israel’s ethnic cleansing, expansion, and settler-colonialism. But when you conflate the two, you’re actually helping Israel because now anyone who doesn’t support hamas can’t support Palestine, apparently, according to you.
His videos on Israel sure seem to whitewash genocide from what I’ve seen
Can you be more specific?
He doesn’t tend to at all, ever mention anything like right or wrong, morals, stuff like that. He talks about geopolitics, negotiation power, what states and militaries are capable or doing or what they’re likely to do. I can’t recall him ever saying any opinion about who’s morally right or wrong. So I don’t see how what you said could possibly be, but if it did, please share a link and a timestamp.
Why Did the Israel-Hamas Ceasefire Take So Long?
At the start, 0 - 57 sec, no mention of the repeated history of Israel deliberately sabatoging the ceasefire process for the entire first two years of the genocide. Also no mention of Gaza being a captive civilian population, that’s been under Israeli Apartheid for over 70 years.
At 3:07 to 4:30, he states that one of Israel’s primary objective is the retrieve all the hostages and that if Hamas wanted to end the war, they would need to return them all as a prerequisite.
No mention that Israel had repeated stated that eradicating Hamas took priority over the hostages, nor that Hamas has been willing to release all the hostages and give up governance of Gaza to a technocratic Council of all Palestinian factions since 2023.
He also states that Israel needed to take enough militants prisoner in order to level the playing field for the ceasefire. Which completely ignores one of the major reason for the Oct 7th operation, to release the thousands to tens of thousands of Palestinian prisoners (most of which were taken without evidence or trial, including hundreds of children, and systematically tortured while captive). The scales were already tilted far in Israel’s favor when it comes to hostages, yet it’s framed as necessary to even out the playing field for the ceasefire.
Again at 4:40, again he falsely states that the ceasefire would leave control of Gaza to Hamas, ignoring the technocratic committee. Also ignoring the actual Israeli war goal, the complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza for settler colonialist expansion.
At 7:17 he states that preventing normalization between SA and Israel is a main factor. Which while it is a factor, still ignores that ending the Apartheid and Occupation is the main factor.
At 7:40 he frames the US as a third party, which is completely ridiculous by all accounts.
At 8:05 he calls the Camp Davis Accords “peace in the middle east” which is also wrong, it was counter Insurgency and a continuation of Apartheid.
Genocide is a systematic form of destruction. It’sconcerning, at the least, that he fails to mention both that it is a genocide nor how exactly Israel has mechanized that destruction. Such as targets, how they determine targets, or really any nature of their military operations. He also omits the US’ financial incentive of Weapon Manufacturer sales to delaying a ceasefire, as well as the ideological component of Zionism and geopolitical component of instability in the region.
Sorry, I don’t feel like slipping into a huge argument. Most of what you said, I don’t feel is relevant criticism for the video, it basically amounts to “he didn’t say the things that I wanted him to say to confirm my opinions”.
But I don’t want to spend hours dealing with your gish gallop so you win.
Anyone who doesn’t blow hamas at every chance they get is supporting genocide, according to some people.
The dude’s username has “stalin” in it, I don’t think they’re capable of formulating a good faith argument.
Is that what you reduce anti-colonial resistance to?
You don’t have to blow hamas in order to take an anti-colonial stance, and if you think otherwise then you’re proving my point.
If you actually flesh out your point, maybe we can have an genuine discussion.
If you can’t recognize the difference between being pro-palestinian and pro-hamas, then you’re not worth having a serious discussion with.
By the way, the Israeli government would like nothing more than for the world to view the two things as the same. It’s the same as conflating anti-zionism with anti-semitism.
And if you think it’s not a real problem and only exists in the imagination, then you should read more about some of the “activist” groups in the UK.
First of all, I didn’t even mention Hamas.
Second of all, I support all aspects of Palestinian resistance unconditionally. That includes Hamas, as well as the numerous other resistance factions within both Gaza and the West Bank.
Third, there’s a reason that all the other resistance groups, including the communist PFLP and the anarchist Fauda, have cooperated and coordinated with Hamas and one another both in military operations and peace negotiations. Because for all of them a unified front for liberation surpasses any ideological differences. Picking and choosing which ones you do or don’t support while you’re sitting comfortably at home, completely removed from the genocide, is completely ridiculous. Not to mention that Hamas is more than just the Al Qassam brigades, every department in Gaza from healthcare to education to agriculture is also Hamas.
No it’s absolutely fucking not. That shows how little you know or care. Zionism is a fascist ideology. Israel intentionally conflates the two to defend it’s fascist actions at the expense of Jewish people globally.
Hamas is conservative, as many other anti-colonial resistance have been. It is a reaction against colonialism. Fanon discusses the nature of this at length, it does not de-legitimize anti-colonial resistance. Denouncing their resistance for that reason is playing exactly into the hands of the colonialists. Immediate survival, such as resistance to genocide and apartheid, is the immediate concern. Progressive changes happen from within a society once there is breathing room for that societal and/or political change to take place. A society can’t breathe when under occupation or genocide. That mentality of conditionality for emancipation is exactly why Israel does Pinkwashing.
Woop, there it is. You can’t rape your way to liberty. But since you support hamas unconditionally, I suppose you disagree with me there.
I would say I support Palestinian liberation, but if you think that means I have to support hamas then I guess I can’t do that. That’s what I mean when I say you’re promoting Israel’s narrative when you say pro-Palestinian means pro-Hamas. If that’s the case, then I guess they weren’t lying when they designated hospitals and schools as military targets. In your own words, those are run by hamas.
If it were up to me, I’d say avoid civilian infrastructure. But if hamas is hiding weapons caches and command centers underneath hospitals and schools, then they’re partially responsible for the resulting destruction.
The Palestinian Authority could have made diplomatic progress towards autonomy and sovereignty, but hamas fought them for control and radicalized the youth. Now the Palestinian Authority has no power, and terrorists are indistinguishable from civilians.
But you’re not willing to criticize hamas, so you’re just gonna pout and accuse me of supporting genocide. I don’t. Israel’s response has been disproportionate beyond any reasonability. But you’re enabling their narrative when you say things like “picking and choosing which [Palestinian factions] you do or don’t support is completely ridiculous.”
I can and do reject hamas for their ideologies as well as their methodologies. That doesn’t mean I approve of Israel’s ethnic cleansing, expansion, and settler-colonialism. But when you conflate the two, you’re actually helping Israel because now anyone who doesn’t support hamas can’t support Palestine, apparently, according to you.
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