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Well, English recipes are not really the best, it’s more fair to say that an US citizen of any gender don’t should be in the kitchen, after seeing them adding ketchup to Spaguetti Carbonara
As am Englishman, I am offended. The idea that I am not capable of preparing Italian food as well as a native, or that I would ever cook English cuisine in my kitchen, is outright racism.
Unless the food is for sick people in that case regular English food is perfectly bland for them.
well someone needs to stir the risotto
I think this is the wrong place to post this. You’re supposed to post this on microblogmemes@lemmy.world
Carbonara is delicious and its definitely not a recent invention
I’m Italian, and trust me: carbonara is not more than 70 years old…
Same thing for tiramisù.
The original inventors of Tiramisu are still alive today.
I hate to break it to you but Norma Pielli died in 2015.
That makes me sad.
Carbonara was invented after WWII to use surplus bacon sent as food aid from the US and primarily served to American servicemen during reconstruction.
It’s not even made with bacon, so no
According to Wikipedia, with various sources, allied forces in Italy would often ask for bacon, eggs, and cheese on noodles, called “spaghetti breakfast,” so Italian chefs would modify the existing recipe for “pasta cacio e uova,” which was originally without meat, to feature cured pork, thus creating the original carbonara.
I didn’t see anything to specifically say whether they originally used bacon as the allied forces asked, or used other more traditional forms of cured pork from the start, but now guanciale, a cured pork jowl, is considered the traditional ingredient, though bacon is a common substitute outside of Italy.
There is an Italian historian (Alberto Grandi) that actually agrees with the POV that carbonara was invented for the american occupation and there are no source citing the recipie until the 1950s.
Italian cuisine is only good when your only frame of reference is other European foods. It’s like talking about the best thing on the menu at McDonald’s
The point of Italian food is not that it is the best in the world. What is nice about it is that there is a lot of variety, it can be quite healthy and most Italian people take pride in it and can cook relatively well.
I had this one Singaporean guy visit me and say basically the same thing, and then he said there was this dish i had to try. And it just tasted like Umami The Dish™ to me.
Turns out, people typically enjoy the cuisine they grew up with and that’s not wrong. To imply that it is makes you annoying.
Granted curry of any kind is miles ahead of most european foods I have tried but Italian can be quite comforting as well. Pasta has a special place in my heart.
Maybe but the English havnt yet invented it at all
*DISCOVERED it all
Weaponized incompetence much?
Does every single thing need to be an argument in your world?
We usually default to these positions: many women’s love language is through acts of service and cooking is a big one, and many guys eat the garbage they “cook” happily (I’m one of those). The distribution of labour follows these sexually-divided realities, same with taking out the trash, killing the mice and cleaning the shower drain.
I’m a woman and I’m all about doing things for the people I love, but I don’t really cook. I’ll happily unclog a shower drain, put together furniture, change your spark plugs, but I hate cooking. Nothing makes me feel attracted to someone quite like when they cook for me; it makes me feel so loved. I joke that the worst part of being single is having to make my own dinner and do my own grocery shopping. I eat so simply now because I refuse to actually cook for just myself.
It’s a good 80/20 split from what I’ve seen. My brother is the chef (and boy can he cook, lol), also the anxious one, the one who plans, in his relationship and his girl is the no-nonsense, “gets her hands dirty” person. As long as we find someone who complements us we’re solid. My wife’s pretty easygoing and I’m a maniac underneath, for example. 🤣
Some default to those positions because we live in a misogynistic society that promotes that thought. Everyone of my closest friends and last couple of bosses are male and the primary chefs I. Their households. My wife usually takes out the trash, recently set mouse traps, cleared one, but I usually do the hair job. Not because I’m a man, but because hair is gross and my wife doesn’t deal well with slimy drain hair. This idea of “pink job” and “blue jobs” (my label not yours) is antiquated and bad.
I didn’t make a value judgement on it, just saying how it usually goes, and of course I can’t account for people’s idiocy and the very Western, redpill, confused and closeted homosexual take of “we’re competitors instead of complementary, women bad because women are feminine”. I mean, my mom’s basically a brain with a mouth, she’s a lawyer who’s also a historian now because she went back to uni in her 60s, lol, and she has never, not even once, cooked us a meal. It’s just not her strong suit, it takes her 30 mins to make a cup of tea which is why my brother ended up becoming the family’s chef, and that’s fine cause she’s always brought home the bacon and paid for everything in my very comfortable childhood, maids included. 🤷
But maybe, on average, men are better with/more suited to do/less hesitant to do gross things (that are not like bodily stuff), among other things like physically demanding things, and potentially dangerous and stressful things (I know women give birth and this fits all three categories and to the highest degrees, lol, but that’s because we’re all very yin yang, the exception that proves the rule if you wish), and women are better at other stuff on average and then over time and across societies we see it and that’s just a reality of things. Maybe the nice boyfriend is baking, sure, and that’s great, but across cultures women seem more motivated to do so. Again, just a description, any value judgement is kinda pointless and misplaced here, because “pink” and “blue” jobs need to get done and are important (but of course misogynistic folks and those without much reading comprehension and a victim complex will see what they wanna see).
Confirmed. My wife does not consume my “cooking”. She will let me grill though…sometimes.
For her, I would bring home a deep fried haggis and a Cornish pasty. Embrace our culture!
Haggis isnt english. Its scottish
Both are British though
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